Re: [Insipid] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-insipid-logme-reqs

Paul Kyzivat <> Thu, 01 September 2016 18:47 UTC

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Here are some comments on the document:

* Section 4:

I'm not clear of the intent of this section. It doesn't seem to include 
requirements, yet it has normative statements. It reads more like a 

I think this section should be rewritten. Perhaps as a set of 
assumptions/prerequisites for the environment where you are seeking a 

* Section 5:

I think the requirements in this section are a bit mixed up. Some are 
requirements that are to be met by a log-me *mechanism*. Others seem to 
be requirements that should be levied by a log-me mechanism on those who 
are implementing the mechanism. These are both useful things, but they 
are different. Perhaps they should be in two separate lists.

* REQ2

This talks about "network boundaries". I think more definition is needed 
to clarify exactly what constitutes a network boundary and what the 
impediments are for something to cross it. (Perhaps by referencing RFC7092.)

* REQ3 (and section 6.1)

Do you have a particular definition of "trust domain" in mind? Again, I 
think some sort of definition is needed.

Also, more discussion of motivation for removing at trust domains is 
needed. IMO there is often little motivation for removing the marking on 
*exit* from a trust domain, and in fact good reason for not doing so. 
OTOH, there may indeed be good reason for removing from a request that 
is *entering* a trust domain. (And some might want to remove the 
indicator on exit in order to ensure that neighbors *aren't* aware they 
are debugging.)

* REQ6/7

Do you really mean *proxy*? I suspect you really mean *intermediary*, 
including both proxies and B2BUAs?