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Re: [Int-area] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-00.txt

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Fri, 08 March 2019 16:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-00.txt
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On 3/8/2019 7:37 AM, Tom Herbert wrote:
>> Isn't the general consensus to move away from fragmentation as much as
>> possible?
>>
> I don't believe so. There are still a lot of valid use cases for
> fragmentation. draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-09 talks about the
> current state fo fragmentation.

Agreed, but if UDP supports fragmentation (it will), then we don't need
that capability buried in obscure layering.

Joe

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