Re: [Int-area] Fw: Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.

Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> Fri, 31 March 2017 16:19 UTC

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From: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 18:18:53 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Fw: Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Khaled Omar
<eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I don¹t see any evidence that you are gaining consensus. Jen¹s suggestion was very good: develop a stack and get some deployment experience to show it can work.
>
> There are many people who likes IPv10 and support it,

Not on that (or any other IETF) mailing list obviously. I have not
seen any single support message so far but at least ten people told
you that they do not support the idea.

>also I'm not a software developer who works for a company developing an OS,

But you claim that developing/updating software is simple and can be
done very quickly...Well, then you have to find someone who is
supporting your idea and willing to prove that your idea works.

>if you don't believe that this idea works, you have to try it by yourself and get back to me with the result

LOL ;) This thread is getting more and more hilarious.

No, it's not how it works. We don't have to.
If you want you idea to be supported you need to convince the
community that the idea is good and would work. To do this you need
to demonstrate it.
If you are not willing to do that - nobody would support your idea,
IPv10 draft would not move forward and we all go back to deploying
IPv6

>and what was your problem, maybe you are not good in writing codes or whatever.

I fail to see how our ability/skills in writing code matters in this case.

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Howard [mailto:lee@asgard.org]
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 5:35 PM
> To: Khaled Omar; Jen Linkova
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> Subject: Re: [Int-area] Fw: Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.
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> On 3/31/17, 10:02 AM, "Int-area on behalf of Khaled Omar"
> <int-area-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> So far many people mentioned to you that updating software on clients
>>>and on network devices is very expensive, complicated and slow process.
>>
>>SOFTWARE UPDATES are expensive, complicated and slow process !
>
> Yes. Years, and hundreds or thousands of hours of expensive labor.
> See where I explained it yesterday at
> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/int-area/current/msg05589.html
>
> And that¹s if we stipulate that this can be done in software, which I don¹t.
>
> I don¹t see any evidence that you are gaining consensus. Jen¹s suggestion was very good: develop a stack and get some deployment experience to show it can work.
>
> Lee
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