Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination
"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Wed, 04 November 2015 10:20 UTC
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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>, "Toerless Eckert (eckert)" <eckert@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination
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I also support the idea of a BoF during an IETF meeting. The issues need to be known to as many people as possible until there is 'a fix' within IEEE -éric On 4/11/15 04:22, "ipv6 on behalf of Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: >Hello Dan, > >I'd see it useful to give this a lot of visibility and accessibility. A >BoF-type meeting outside of meeting hours at this or the next IETF would >probably improve that piece. INTAREA has collisions that people did not >necessarily get a chance to manage in advance so interested people may >miss the presentation. >I would like to be sure that most interested parties have a chance to >know that this is happening at all. > >Some of these discussion will relate to work happening at various WGs. >Out of my hat and not copied above I see at least 6lo and MANET which >deal with radios networks and need efficient network and service >discovery. Cc ing 6lo because this is where RFC 6775 originated, and new >work is taking place. > >There will be serious discussions, and probably documents produced in the >form of best practices. This work may deserve a short-termed WG on its >own. A non-Wg forming BoF would help figure all that out. > >Cheers, > >Pascal > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan >> (Dan) >> Sent: mercredi 4 novembre 2015 10:52 >> To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>; Toerless Eckert (eckert) >> <eckert@cisco.com> >> Cc: mboned@ietf.org; 6man@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org >> Subject: RE: multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination >> >> Does anybody believe there is a better/other place to go with this >> information? >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> >> Dan >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mikael >> > Abrahamsson >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 2:57 AM >> > To: Toerless Eckert >> > Cc: mboned@ietf.org; 6man@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org >> > Subject: Re: multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination >> > >> > On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Toerless Eckert wrote: >> > >> > > [sorry, resending with correct email aliases] >> > > >> > > Mikael: >> > > >> > > Any reason to choose INTAREA ? >> > >> > I didn't choose anything, INTAREA was chosen by the people in the >> > coordination group that includes several ADs. The multicast over wifi >> > issue has been raised in multiple working groups. >> > >> > > There is already a draft in mboned: >> > > >> > > draft-mcbride-mboned-wifi-mcast-problem-statement-00.txt >> > > >> > > and... mboned runs in parallel to intarea this time *sigh* and... i >> > > am sure mboned participants would love to hear your preso about >>IEEE. >> > >> > So thanks for including mboned so that people there are aware that >> > this is discussed in INTAREA. MBONED is not alone in having conflicts >> > with INTAREA, there are other low-power wireless technology people who >> > also have conflicts. Please discuss this issue on the INTAREA mailing >> > list, and you can watch the presentation (it's not mine) after the >> > fact on for instance Meetecho. I don't believe there is much time for >> > discussion in the INTAREA meeting, they have a packed agenda already >>if I >> understood correctly. >> > >> > -- >> > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> > ipv6@ietf.org >> > Administrative Requests: >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> > >> 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_ipv6&d=BQICAg&c=BFpWQw8bsuKpl >> 1 >> > >> SgiZH64Q&r=I4dzGxR31OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=aVouzp >> b >> > CzgpDGMb8eabFNhiZ61AnoK06iltaK1NwjdE&s=cleQzxju- >> > 9RBGYIarDCVTKq1uzL_2XAW0kgXpVNreiw&e= >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >ipv6@ietf.org >Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >--------------------------------------------------------------------
- Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-I… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-I… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-I… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-I… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-I… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-I… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)