Re: [Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Thu, 02 August 2018 15:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, Joe Touch wrote:

> So you want us to redesign the Internet to run over port 443.

Nope.

> The again, IP has fragmentation. That too is reality, even if we don’t like it.

IP have lots of things. Hop-by-hop-headers for instance. Really bad idea.

> Again, something broken needs fixing. You can chase the symptoms forever 
> or you can deal with the cause. It’s simply not tenable to ‘fix’ the 
> internet to accommodate broken devices.

The thing here is that you haven't proposed a realistic way to deal with 
the problem. We do not have any enforcement mechanism.

Applications need to work when faced with adverse conditions. They can 
work less well, that's fine, but they still need to work.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se