Re: [Int-area] Document shepherd comments on 'draft-ietf-intarea-gue-05'

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Sat, 01 September 2018 02:16 UTC

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To: "Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Document shepherd comments on 'draft-ietf-intarea-gue-05'
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Hi, all,

On 8/30/2018 8:29 AM, Templin (US), Fred L wrote:
>>> Section 3.2.1:
>>> Final paragraph beginning: "IP protocol number 59 ("No next header") can be set
>>> to indicate that the GUE payload does not begin with the header of an IP protocol."
>>> The example given was GUE fragmentation, but would that not represent a
>>> departure from the way things are done for IP fragmentation? I believe in
>>> IP fragmentation the protocol field contains the same value for both initial
>>> and non-initial fragments. Is there a reason for the departure here?
>> Yes. GUE allows a node to skip over the GUE header to inspect the
>> encapsulated payload, For instance, a firewall may be looking for an
>> inner IP destination in an encapsulated packet. The GUE payload is
>> interpreted based on the protocol in the Proto/ctype field. So if the
>> payload is not a parseable IP protocol (like it would be for a
>> non-first GUE fragment), then 59 is used to avoid devices trying to
>> parse it.
> I am OK with ipproto-59. In hindsight, maybe IP fragmentation should have
> adopted a similar convention when it was specified so many decades ago.
FWIW, IP fragmentation copies the IP header in each fragment because
that field is part of the context for the ID field; i.e., ID MUST be
unique within src/dst/proto. If fragments had a different proto field,
it would undermine that context.

Joe