Re: [Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF111

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Tue, 13 July 2021 18:49 UTC

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 20:48:56 +0200
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
Cc: Wassim Haddad <wassim.haddad=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, intarea-chairs@ietf.org, "int-area@ietf.org" <int-area@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF111
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Thanks, Jo, put on the reading list, probably have to add it to inspiration section.

Indeed, i am sure that a lot of the ideas i put together into my draft
have individually been brought up in research in various forms, but this
research was not brought to IETF and the painfull process of reworking/adjusting
to make it become useful for the industry (like e.g.: SPRING did it 30 years
after the idea of source routin was first brought up).

The main problem to mee seems to coalesce enough business valuable benefits
into a proposal better enough to beat the good enough most people seem
to think about what we have with IPv6. Better serving limited domains
such as SP cores, industrial and IoT networks seems like the best starting
point IMHO. But of course the main issue is to create host stacks where
using other than global-scope IPv6 addresses can be done.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 04:46:03PM -0700, Joseph Touch wrote:
> FWIW, there’s lots that can be done just with source routing, esp. if they’re not just IP addresses they can already support ways to add a lot of these sort of semantics:
> J Touch, V Pingali: DataRouter: A Network-Layer Service for Application-Layer Forwarding <https://www.strayalpha.com/pubs/iwan2003.pdf>. In: International Workshop on Active Networks (IWAN), IFIP, 2003.
> 
> > On Jul 12, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> > 
> > As sent to the WG just right now, i would be happy to have a slot
> > to discuss the ideas of: 
> > 
> > Abstract:
> >   Idea for network packet header beyond rfc8200:
> >   How variable length network layer addresses with a functional semantic can
> >   support requirements for many limited domain internets, such as enabling independent
> >   address spaces, introduction of new semantics, traffic steering and
> >   flexible programmability at the network layer easier.
> > 
> > Draft:
> >   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eckert-intarea-functional-addr-internets/
> > 
> > Time:
> >   10..15 minutes
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 04:41:04PM +0000, Wassim Haddad wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >> 
> >> In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting (scheduled on Friday, 07/30), please send agenda requests to the chairs.
> >> Please indicate short abstract, draft name and time requested
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Juan & Wassim
> > 
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