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Re: [Int-area] Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.

Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com> Thu, 30 March 2017 17:19 UTC

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From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com>
To: Karsten Thomann <karsten_thomann@linfre.de>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.
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> If you can convince the vendors to redesign their whole hardware designs to support a new protocol in the forwarding plane to get a acceptable forwarding rate AND the ISP's/MSP's to buy new hardware for many $$$, we can start discussing again, but in the meanwhile no one wants to support a third protocol.

IPv10 requires software development, this is what most participants don't want to understand, it will have no cost if they will not upgrade their routers' OSs.

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From: Karsten Thomann [mailto:karsten_thomann@linfre.de] 
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.

Am Donnerstag, 30. März 2017, 16:29:43 schrieb Khaled Omar:
> > Same issue with the routers in the path. IPv10 would require *all* 
> > of
> 
> them to be upgraded for the new packet header format.
> 
> What will happen with one router from a specific company will happen 
> with all routers from the same vendors, inserting updates is not that hard,...

Just a small comment, as I don't like this discussion, too.
That "is not hard" might be true for the installation at home users and small businesses, but exactly the opposite of "not hard" at every other location.
If you can convince the vendors to redesign their whole hardware designs to support a new protocol in the forwarding plane to get a acceptable forwarding rate AND the ISP's/MSP's to buy new hardware for many $$$, we can start discussing again, but in the meanwhile no one wants to support a third protocol.

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