Re: [Int-area] [homenet] Evaluate impact of MAC address randomization to IP applications

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Tue, 22 September 2020 23:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Int-area] [homenet] Evaluate impact of MAC address randomization to IP applications
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Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
    > I have read the emails and the draft <draft-lee-randomized-macaddr-ps-01>.   I am not clear what the goal of the BOF is.

    > Could the proponents state it clearly?

I can't speak for the proponents, but at the simplest, one could add:
  "how can we do X if the MAC cannot be used as identity"

    > • LAN gateway NAPT forwarding - (PRESENTER TBD)
    > • Static NAPT policies - (PRESENTER TBD)
    > • Persistent DHCP IP address assignments - (PRESENTER TBD)
    > • Device-to-user or group association for malware protection - (PRESENTER TBD)
    > • Device-to-user or group association for parental controls - (PRESENTER TBD)
    > • Device-to-user or group association to restrict or authorize unwanted
    > or unverified device connections to the LAN - (PRESENTER TBD)

I don't get the NAPT issue though.
The NAPT issues are because DHCP gave the device a different IP(v4), right?
If you solve persistent DHCP, then you solve those, don't you?

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