Re: [Int-area] Procedure for obtaining Ethertypes

[Robert Moskowitz <[e-mail]>]

Since, in a sense, this is targetted at me to be the lab rat for this, I 
will read all this over carefully to see what mess I am getting myself 
into,   :)

Bob

On 11/10/22 07:45, Bob Hinden wrote:
> Don,
>
> Adding a procedure describing how to obtain an Ethertype for IETF work seems reasonable to me as well.
>
> Bob
>
>
>> On Nov 10, 2022, at 12:24 PM, Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> During the INTAREA WG meeting yesterday, there was a desire expressed
>> to include in the rfc7042bis draft an explicit process, from the IETF
>> side, for applying to the IEEE Registration Authority for an Ethertype
>> assignment. This seems pretty reasonable. The rfc7042bis draft does
>> include the IESG Statement requiring IESG approval before such
>> applications but does not make it clear just who talks to who inside
>> the IETF and who actually does the clerical work to apply to the IEEE
>> Registration Authority for an Ethertype assignment after IESG
>> approval.
>>
>> Thinking about this, it seems to me that you want one point person who
>> normally does the application process. This should be a position that
>> has low turnover so that the person in that position is likely to have
>> some experience doing this. The two possibilities that occur to me are
>> (1) the IETF 802.1 Liaison (currently Eric Gray) or (2) the Expert for
>> the IANA Informational Ethertype Registry (currently me). (I have been
>> through the Ethertype assignment process for an IETF protocol several
>> times.)
>>
>> The IESG Statement (see
>> https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/ethertypes/)
>> requires IESG approval and, as I recall, the last time this happened,
>> after the IESG had approved, the IESG was unclear on what to do next
>> but their first inclination was to tell IANA to do the application to
>> the IEEE Registration Authority. This seems natural as IANA is who you
>> would think of when it comes to assignments. And IANA maintains
>> contact with their registry experts. While this probably doesn't
>> matter at a practical level, considering the liaison alternative, the
>> IETF does not seems to currently have a liaison to IEEE 802.1 while
>> the IEEE Registration Authority is not at the IEEE 802.1 or the IEEE
>> 802 level but rather at the IEEE level .
>>
>> Any comments welcome but, based on the above, I'm inclined to draft
>> some text based on the point person doing the clerical work of
>> actually applying to the IEEE Registration Authority being the IANA
>> Ethertype Informational Registry expert (actual Registry name "IEEE
>> 802 Numbers"). Of course, whoever it is, they could have someone else
>> do it on their behalf in any particular instance but they would be
>> responsible to see that it gets done.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Donald
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