Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoption.
Tobias Fiebig <tobias@inet.tu-berlin.de> Fri, 21 April 2017 20:31 UTC
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:31:15 -0700
From: Tobias Fiebig <tobias@inet.tu-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoption.
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Heho, On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 02:47:20PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: > ... > > Using one datapoint, an ad network (google) is helpful to > understand what browser users might look like but a set top box > without a browser may move significantly more bits and not be > apparent at all in the IPv6 stats at google. I would like to chim in on that point. Actually google has a strong bias for IPv6 adoption in devices speaking to google. While natural, this really skews the numbers: The BigN (Google (YouTube), Facebook, Akamai, Cloudflare, Netflix etc.) account for a major part of overall traffic, especially in access networks. Incidentily, most of these orgs have deployed v6 on the server side. Hence, as soon as an access network rolls out v6, the traffic share of v6 skyrockets, as a major portion of the remotes causing most traffic well... support v6. However, this observation does not hold for the heavy tail of the Internet. Actually, I am currently investigating other datasources, that are not biased towards end-users and "BigN" content providers; There, v6 adoption for the heavy tail actually ranges more in the field of 1%... With best Regards, Tobias Fiebig -- Tobias Fiebig building MAR, 4th floor, room 4.003 Fachgebiet INET - Sekr. MAR 4-4 phone: +49 162 243 205 2 Technische Universität Berlin gpg-fp: 21A9 91EB 4971 ED48 001E Marchstrasse 23 - 10587 Berlin FBBC B6AF 3CD8 59A2 795B
- Re: [Int-area] FW: Google Statistics for IPv6 ado… Tom Herbert
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Khaled Omar
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Int-area] FW: Google Statistics for IPv6 ado… Khaled Omar
- Re: [Int-area] FW: Google Statistics for IPv6 ado… Tom Herbert
- [Int-area] FW: Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Khaled Omar
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Khaled Omar
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Khaled Omar
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… otroan
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Khaled Omar
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Steve Crocker
- Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoptio… Tobias Fiebig