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Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> Thu, 14 December 2017 16:26 UTC

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From: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
To: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-intarea-probe-09: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Benoit,

Thanks for the review.

AFAICS, RFC 4560 gives the user a way to initiate legacy PING/TRACEROUTE/LOOKUP remotely, from a management station. But, are still talking about legacy PING/TRACEROUTE/LOOKUP. All of their shortcomings are still evident when initiated remotely. For example, there is no way to PING an unnumbered interface with RFC 4560.

Are you sure that the reference to RFC 6812 is correct? I don't see how that RFC is related.

I'm not qualified to comment on whether OWAMP IPR claims apply.

                                                   Ron


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:25 AM
> To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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> intarea-chairs@ietf.org; ggx@gigix.net; int-area@ietf.org
> Subject: Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-intarea-probe-09: (with
> COMMENT)
> 
> Benoit Claise has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-intarea-probe-09: No Objection
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> No objection to the publication of this document. However, some
> comments.
> 
> So basically you specify the same functionality as remote ping MIB in RFC4560
> where
> - probing interface = SNMP manager
> - proxy interface = SNMP agent
> - probed agent = destination
> Right? So any connection with RFC4560?
> 
> I guess this mechanism is a similar functionality as RFC 6812, where
> - proxy agent = sender
> - responder = destination
> ... even the technology is not based on the ICMP extended echo As such I
> believe that the RFC 6812 IPR applies here as well.
> However, I'm not the one to make the call. So I will forward to the
> appropriate persons.
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> Potentially the OWAMP IPRs apply as well.
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