Re: [Int-area] Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.

Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com> Thu, 30 March 2017 17:20 UTC

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From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com>
To: Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.
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Ignas,

> Please try to view your proposal from the operational side too.

If they will not accept these changes they will face the division problem, they are the customer facing authorities, so if they will not make those changes, they will find another problem from the other side.

> For any practically sized operator that would be an exercise of years with associated costs of very substantial nature. Please make yourself more familiar with network operational realities.

Upgrading routers' OSs will take a short time if they are organizing their work and distributing assignments clearly.

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From: Ignas Bagdonas [mailto:ibagdona.ietf@gmail.com] 
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.



On 30/03/2017 17:29, Khaled Omar wrote:
>> Same issue with the routers in the path. IPv10 would require *all* of
> them to be upgraded for the new packet header format.
>
> What will happen with one router from a specific company will happen 
> with all routers from the same vendors, inserting updates is not that 
> hard,

Khaled,

Please try to view your proposal from the operational side too. 
Designing a protocol wire representation and implementing that for some platform is quite trivial compared to the changes that are needed for the network support systems, the effort required for validation of that new functionality before the deployment, and the feasibility of doing the actual flag day deployment. For any practically sized operator that would be an exercise of years with associated costs of very substantial nature. Please make yourself more familiar with network operational realities.


Ignas