Re: [Int-area] Still need to know what has changed.... Re: IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)

Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 19 September 2020 23:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Still need to know what has changed.... Re: IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)
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As noted before: RFCs 6052, 6146, 6147, 6877, 7915, and others comprise the
solution deployed to literally hundreds of millions if not billions of
mobile devices and numerous access networks worldwide.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:24 AM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
wrote:

> >> Who are these “many people”, and what problem do they see being solved?
>
> Network engineers everywhere, they are waiting for the announcement of an
> official robust solution to the depletion of the IPv4 address space and the
> division that occurs recently on the Internet.
>
> People read the draft and many wrote about it because the idea is simple
> and requires no intervention from their side, that’s why I ask the IETF to
> take the draft seriously and put personal benefits aside for now, as LATER
> everything will back to normal, believe me, all are in need for this.
>
> Khaled Omar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 12:24 PM
> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
> Cc: Roland Bless <roland.bless@kit.edu>; Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=
> 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; int-area <int-area@ietf.org>;
> intarea-chairs@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] Still need to know what has changed.... Re: IPv10
> draft (was Re: FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109
> - IPv10)
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 17, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Regarding the confusion, the community is curious about the idea, many
> people support it as it solves the problem that they think they are not
> part of it.
>
> This statement has me a little confused. I see a lot of commentary, but I
> don’t see people commenting along those lines. I frankly see commentary
> similar to what I sent you declining a v6ops slot,
>
> Who are these “many people”, and what problem do they see being solved?
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