Re: [Int-area] FYI/Feedback for draft-bryant-arch-fwd-layer-ps-00

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Tue, 24 March 2020 17:52 UTC

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:52:26 +0100
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] FYI/Feedback for draft-bryant-arch-fwd-layer-ps-00
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Thanks, Eric

I think the main reason why we did not want to approach WGs directly
yet is because the scope is on architectural issues with lets say a 10 years
solution horizon. And in WGs there is often a rightfull concern
that work like this is premature to standardize, infeasible
for todays hardware or derailing the work of groups that already
a backlogged finalizing even shorter term protocol work.

But without a longer term architectural track doing work like this
in parallel to current WGs, it will be difficult for the IETF to really drive
innovation at the network / forwarding layer longer term.

In that respect, DISPATCH would be great if it could 
dispatch to something that was focussed on more longer term
architecture work, but i think there is no such forum today,
hence the side meetings.

Cheers
    Toerless


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 01:49:18PM +0000, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
> Hello Toerless,
> 
> It seems related to intarea indeed (by reading the abstract) but possibly wider as well.
> 
> Did you consider DISPATCH (yesterday alas...) ?
> 
> May I also suggest to run a 2nd call as tomorrow is really short notice?
> 
> -éric
> 
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> Date: Tuesday, 24 March 2020 at 03:10
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> Cc: "draft-bryant-arch-fwd-layer-ps@ietf.org" <draft-bryant-arch-fwd-layer-ps@ietf.org>
> Subject: [Int-area] FYI/Feedback for draft-bryant-arch-fwd-layer-ps-00
> 
>     Dear intarea WG
>     
>     We think draft https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bryant-arch-fwd-layer-ps/
>     does in part touch aspects related to intarea, so we are interested in
>     your opinion/feedback. We think its mostly architectual through, so
>     maybe architecture-discuss@ietf.org is more appropriate for overall
>     discussions on the topic right now.
>     
>     Before Corona, we had planned to have an inoffical side-meeting to
>     discuss the topic, we have now set up a virtual inofficial side-meeting
>     instead, This wednesday 03/25/2020, 1500 UTC. Info here:
>     
>     https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf107replacements
>     https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/v107-side-meeting
>     
>     Cheers
>        Toerless (for the authors)
>     
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