Re: [Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Sat, 28 July 2018 16:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile
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I thought that was just called the Internet...

> On Jul 26, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
> 
> I also wonder if there is a new field of study that could stem from these
> observations - maybe call it "Corruption-Tolerant Networking (CTN)"?
> 
> Fred