[Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion from Monami6
Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> Wed, 14 February 2007 12:59 UTC
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Subject: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion from Monami6
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I would like to lift up one issue from the Monami6 WG to a more general discussion. Monami6 is developing an extension to Mobile IPv6 / Nemo so that a mobile node could register its presence in multiple locations simultaneously. One of things that they expect to be able to do is to control what traffic goes to what care-of address; this flow to this address, and the other flow to that other address. Mobile nodes can obviously decide by themselves what outgoing interface to use. However, in order for a home agent to deal with return traffic properly, the mobile node has to tell it what policy to employ. The working group has debated between a number of different approaches for doing this. In one approach, draft-soliman- monami6-flow-binding the mobile node adds a filter to a Mobile IPv6 Binding Update to tell what traffic should use this binding. Another approach, draft-larsson-monami6-filter-rules, decouples the policy exchange from the mobility protocol. The policies are exchanged at a different time (typically earlier) and carried by a different protocol (in this case over UDP). Yet another draft, draft-mitsuya-monami6-flow-distribution-policy also separates the mobility protocol and policy transfer, and carries the policies in HTTP. Monami6 should of course decide how they want to design this. But this may be an interesting debate from a more generic point of view. Do we have input for them? For instance, are there needs in HIP/Shim6/Mobike space for similar functionality? Should the designs be tailored for each of these situations? Is there some advantage or disadvantage in looking at a generic solution? Would a generic solution be doable? Without going into too much detail about the specific proposals it seems that there are actually a number of different topics here: - carrier protocol choice - policy container format - timing of the policy exchange - securing the transfer - etc Thoughts? Jari _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list Int-area@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
- [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion from Mo… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Thomas Narten
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… john.loughney
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… McCann Peter-A001034
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Henrik Levkowetz
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Henrik Levkowetz
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Henrik Levkowetz
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Benjamin Lim
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Narayanan, Vidya
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Monami6] RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Monami6] RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Thierry Ernst
- Re: [Monami6] RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Monami6] RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Thierry Ernst
- Re: [Monami6] RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Monami6] RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Thierry Ernst
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Henrik Levkowetz
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [Monami6] FW: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Heikki Mahkonen
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Tero Kauppinen (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Monami6] FW: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Heikki Mahkonen
- RE: [Monami6] FW: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Hesham Soliman
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Hesham Soliman
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Tero Kauppinen (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Hesham Soliman
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Tero Kauppinen (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Narayanan, Vidya
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Pekka Savola
- Re: [Monami6] FW: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Jari Arkko
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Hesham Soliman
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Hesham Soliman
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Henrik Levkowetz
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… RYUJI WAKIKAWA
- RE: [Monami6] FW: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Hesham Soliman
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Pekka Savola
- Re: [Monami6] FW: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Monami6] FW: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter … Hesham Soliman
- Re: network decisions for endnode (was: [Monami6]… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: network decisions for endnode (was: [Monami6]… Hesham Soliman
- [Int-area] Re: network decisions for endnode Alexandru Petrescu
- [Int-area] RE: network decisions for endnode Hesham Soliman
- [Int-area] Re: network decisions for endnode Alexandru Petrescu
- [Int-area] RE: network decisions for endnode Hesham Soliman
- [Int-area] Re: network decisions for endnode Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Int-area] Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Narayanan, Vidya
- [Int-area] Re: Lifting up a filter discussion fro… Thierry Ernst