[Int-area] Obsoleting RFC 1264?
Bill Fenner <fenner@research.att.com> Thu, 01 June 2006 08:09 UTC
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[I've bcc'd this message to the int-area list, but I'd like the discussion to occur on the Routing area list. There's not much other traffic on the Routing area list so I encourage int-area subscribers to pick it up for this thread.] Dear friends, There was quite a bit of discussion at the last IETF meeting, in the Routing Area and Internet Area meetings, about draft-fenner-zinin-rtg-standard-reqts. The discussion was quite split, with strenuous arguments on both sides of the issue. I'd like to float the opposite plan as a trial balloon: declare RFC1264 obsolete. I believe that a) the existing (business, etc.) incentives against deploying something prematurely in the Internet are sufficient, and b) the lack of an RFC doesn't prevent something's deployment. All the rules serve to do is to increase the work on the working groups and the ADs, and make the IETF appear to be a bureaucratic organization that makes it difficult to publish good ideas. The barriers against bad ideas are still in place: - The judgement of the Working Group - The judgement of the IESG - The IESG [presumably delegating the task to the Routing ADs] can still ask for implementation/deployment experience if it appears to be needed. I have just spent too long watching the barriers work against good ideas. Bill ----- Begin forwarded message: From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-fenner-obsolete-1264-00.txt Date: Wed, May 31 12:50:02 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Reply-to: internet-drafts@ietf.org Title : RFC 1264 is Obsolete Author(s) : B. Fenner Filename : draft-fenner-obsolete-1264-00.txt Pages : 5 Date : 2006-5-31 RFC 1264 was written during what was effectively a completely different time in the life of the Internet. It prescribed rules to protect the Internet against new routing protocols that may have various undesirable properties. In today's Internet, there are so many other pressures against deploying unreasonable protocols that we believe that existing controls suffice, and the RFC 1264 rules just get in the way. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fenner-obsolete-1264-00.txt ----- End forwarded message: _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list Int-area@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
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