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Re: [Int-area] [pim] Fwd: [ieee-ietf-coord] draft on Multicast Considerations over IEEE 802 Wireless Media

Linus Lüssing <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue> Sun, 09 April 2017 10:37 UTC

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Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 12:37:16 +0200
From: Linus Lüssing <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] [pim] Fwd: [ieee-ietf-coord] draft on Multicast Considerations over IEEE 802 Wireless Media
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> From: Juan Carlos Zuniga <j.c.zuniga@ieee.org<mailto:j.c.zuniga@ieee.org>>
> Date: March 31, 2017 at 8:33:01 AM CDT
> To: ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org<mailto:ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org>, Juan Carlos Zuniga <juancarlos.zuniga@sigfox.com<mailto:juancarlos.zuniga@sigfox.com>>
> Subject: [ieee-ietf-coord] draft on Multicast Considerations over IEEE 802 Wireless Media
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> This is the draft that I mentioned during the meeting. Please take a look and provide inputs either here or in the IntArea WG list (int-area@ietf.org<mailto:int-area@ietf.org>):
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-perkins-intarea-multicast-ieee802-02

Hi everyone,

Thanks for raising awareness of the potential pitfalls concerning
multicast on 802.11! Had to find out about them the hard way back
then, so I am really looking forward to this RFC :).


My comment/wish is just about multicast group awareness: In
"3.2.3. - MLD issues" I would have expected some notes regarding
the issue of IGMP/MLD report suppression and how this makes it
difficult to track per STA group membership state.

I would have then expected a section regarding "Multicast Group
Awareness / Multicast Snooping" in "4 - Multicast protocol
optimizations", explaining how it can improve performance, but
what would need to be done to mitigate those report suppression
issues: If applying some multicast group awareness then how
RFC4541 would need to be translated from bridges to APs
(i.e. by interpreting each STA as an individual "switch port"
- and emphasizing again where to and where not to forward IGMP/MLD
reports).


An older version of OpenWRT missed RFC4541 for its group-aware
multicast-to-unicast implementation some years ago entirely,
resulting in ugly packetloss back then...

Regards, Linus

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