Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-giuliano-blocking-considerations-00.txt (fwd)

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 10/03/2022 à 10:17, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit :
>
> This is my comments:
>
>
> I would not call it simply 'conflict' even though that is indeed a 
> more neutral term that helps in many conversations.  But also, calling 
> it anything else than plain 'war', might represent actually taking 
> parts.  There are many other names given to it, and one can be even 
> fined if not abiding.  I simply refuse that fine, so I call it a war.
>
> In the 'disconnection methods' - one would add other aspects too:
>
> - my anti-virus blocks access to some web sites.  An anti-virus also 
> tells 'false positives'.  That is all about disconnection.
>
> - some web sites (including very high level of parts taking part in 
> war) are not even using CAs.  Some CAs are not in browsers.  That is 
> disconnection too.
>
> - a sysadmin might disconnect a cable (PHY level) because of wanting 
> to have protection, because the risk of cyber attacks is so high these 
> days.
>
> - bombs might create disconnections.
>
> In the 'Implications' of disconnection one should list this one:
>
> - if  AIEA does not have the radiation level at some war sites via 
> communication channels (typically over the Internet, I believe) then 
> population at large is at risk.  The disconnection might lead to it, 
> and it is a criteria at AIEA.  That is an information I repeat from them.
>
>
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>
> These are my pointers right now: news agencies display some times news 
> about Internet situation in Ukr-Rus space.
>
> Then there are these mentioned on the ISOC Internet Policy email list 
> recently:
>
> https://twitter.com/netblocks (but it seems twitter might be blockedin 
> Russia)
>
> https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton/#problem
>
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
>
> https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/Multistakeholder-Imposition-of-Internet-Sanctions.pdf
>
> https://connect.geant.org/2022/03/04/geant-association-statement-on-the-russian-aggression
>
> Sorry - I am not spamming.
>
> I will not participate to this IETF meeting (neither online, nor 
> in-person) because of several reasons: risk of covid propagation, risk 
> of travel (the flightradar24 displays a big hole East of Europe which 
> I suspect it might have chances to impact the travel in Europe), and 
> other personal opinion.
>

(sorry, correction - 'risks', not 'chances', to impact travel)

Alex

> Yours,
>
> Alex
>
> Le 09/03/2022 à 20:44, Lenny Giuliano a écrit :
>>
>> FYI, this draft proposes to document the considerations for regional 
>> Internet blocking, a topic of increased interest in the last few weeks.
>>
>> Comments and questions are most welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lenny
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2022 12:05:03 -0800
>> From: [e-mail]
>> To: Lenny Giuliano <[e-mail]>, Melchior Aelmans 
>> <[e-mail]>,
>>     Tony Li <[e-mail]>
>> Subject: New Version Notification for
>>     draft-giuliano-blocking-considerations-00.txt
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-giuliano-blocking-considerations-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Tony Li and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:        draft-giuliano-blocking-considerations
>> Revision:    00
>> Title:        Regional Internet Blocking Considerations
>> Document date:    2022-03-07
>> Group:        Individual Submission
>> Pages:        13
>> URL: 
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-giuliano-blocking-considerations-00.txt
>> Status: 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-giuliano-blocking-considerations/
>> Htmlized: 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-giuliano-blocking-considerations
>>
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    Geopolitical conflicts can cause policy makers to question whether or
>>    not blocking the Internet connectivity for an opposing region is a
>>    constructive tactic.  This document provides an overview of the
>>    various technologies that can be used to implement regional blocking
>>    of Internet connectivity and discusses the implications of these
>>    options.  This document does not advocate any policy or given
>>    blocking mechanism, but does attempt to articulate the implications
>>    of these blocking technologies for policy makers.  The document also
>>    intends to help inform policy makers from countries who could be
>>    exposed to such blocking techniques on the implications of these
>>    methods.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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