Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination

Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> Wed, 04 November 2015 00:46 UTC

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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 16:45:58 -0800
From: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination
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[sorry, resending with correct email aliases]

Mikael: 

Any reason to choose INTAREA ? 

There is already a draft in mboned:

draft-mcbride-mboned-wifi-mcast-problem-statement-00.txt

and... mboned runs in parallel to intarea this time *sigh*
and... i am sure mboned participants would love to hear your preso about IEEE.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 01:31:52AM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been involved with the coordination group between IEEE and IETF to 
> discuss multicast over 802.11 issues that have been brought up in different 
> forums, both regarding reliability and power usage on battery powered 
> devices.
> 
> There will be a presentation in INTAREA regarding this and initial 
> discussion on the issue will be had there. In case there is enough interest 
> in the issue, there might be a non-working group mailing list created for 
> further discussion, or something else.
> 
> There will also be presentation in the IEEE meeting next week on this 
> issue, so there is awareness in both forums that the issue has been raised 
> to try to gather all interested parties to work on this problem.
> 
> The presentation tomorrow will be to present what IEEE already has done in 
> this area (for instance GCR), and then there is a need to figure out what 
> part of the problem to be solved where (IETF/IEEE).
> 
> -- 
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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