Re: [Int-area] IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)

Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> Thu, 17 September 2020 13:58 UTC

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From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>, int-area <int-area@ietf.org>, "intarea-chairs@ietf.org" <intarea-chairs@ietf.org>
CC: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: IPv10 draft (was Re: [Int-area] FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)
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Hi Eric,

>> You also have received some feedback on the mailing lists, did you incorporate them in a revision ?

Most of the feedbacks I got are related to changing the draft name from IPv10 to any other name.

The difference between version -06 and -11 are on using the ASN inside the address when it is IPv4, and also arranging the direction of the packet to be easily understood when reading, I feel this is the best form of the IPv10 draft.

If someone think there is something missing or to add please inform me and we can do it together.

Best regards,

Khaled Omar

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com> 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 3:46 PM
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>; int-area <int-area@ietf.org>; intarea-chairs@ietf.org
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Subject: IPv10 draft (was Re: [Int-area] FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)

Hello Khaled,

In your email, you refer to https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-omar-ipv10-06 but may I assume that you meant the latest 2018 version https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-omar-ipv10-11 ?

Anyway, before presenting the draft, a revised IETF draft should be uploaded as all previous revisions are expired.

You also have received some feedback on the mailing lists, did you incorporate them in a revision ?

The above steps are really the critical conditions to present a draft at an IETF meeting.

Regards

-éric

-----Original Message-----
From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
Date: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 at 15:20
To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>, int-area <int-area@ietf.org>, "intarea-chairs@ietf.org" <intarea-chairs@ietf.org>
Cc: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Int-area] FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10

    Sorry, IETF 98 Not 101 :-)

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Khaled Omar 
    Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 3:12 PM
    To: 'Eric Vyncke (evyncke)' <evyncke@cisco.com>; int-area <int-area@ietf.org>; intarea-chairs@ietf.org
    Cc: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>; Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
    Subject: RE: [Int-area] FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10

    Hi Eric,

    The IPv10 I-D was presented once at IETF 101 remotely through the IntArea and there was a technical issue prevented the draft to be presented completely.

    >> I do not see a major difference with previous drafts.

    This is because of the completion of the draft, IMHO it should be reviewed and an official decision should be taken, because the problem of the depletion of the IPv4 address space still has no recent solution applied, we cannot wait too long for IPv6 which requires tranining and this occurred actually but in vain.

    Best regards,

    Khaled Omar

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com> 
    Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 3:05 PM
    To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>; int-area <int-area@ietf.org>; intarea-chairs@ietf.org
    Cc: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>; Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: [Int-area] FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10

    Khaled,

    As the responsible AD for the intarea WG, I wonder why you are forwarding a V6OPS request to intarea ? Your draft has been already presented at intarea a couple of times and (I may be wrong) I do not see a major difference with previous drafts.

    -éric

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Int-area <int-area-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
    Date: Saturday, 12 September 2020 at 01:47
    To: int-area <int-area@ietf.org>, "intarea-chairs@ietf.org" <intarea-chairs@ietf.org>
    Subject: [Int-area] FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10

        FYI, just to let you know so maybe you can help with something.

        Best Regards,

        Khaled Omar

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Khaled Omar 
        Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 1:42 AM
        To: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
        Cc: v6ops-chairs@ietf.org; v6ops@ietf.org
        Subject: RE: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109

        Hi Ron,

        Hope my I-D is clear for you, let me ask if we can reserve a slot for the IP-v10 I-D to be discussed during the next coming meeting so we can solve the problem that IMHO became clear for everyone even students.

        Good Luck,

        Khaled Omar 

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Khaled Omar 
        Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 10:56 PM
        To: v6ops-chairs@ietf.org; v6ops@ietf.org
        Subject: RE: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109

        Hi V6OPS WG,

        Is it possible to reserve a slot for the IPv10 I-D to be presented completely during the v6ops wg meeting session?

        https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-omar-ipv10-06

        Best Regards,

        Khaled Omar

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        Subject: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109



        A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Fred Baker, a Chair of the v6ops working group.


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        Working Group Name: IPv6 Operations
        Area Name: Operations and Management Area Session Requester: Fred Baker


        Number of Sessions: 1
        Length of Session(s):  2 Hours
        Number of Attendees: 100
        Conflicts to Avoid: 
         Chair Conflict: spring lsr 6man intarea idr

         Key Participant Conflict: rtgwg tsvarea panrg grow tsvwg





        People who must be present:
          Fred Baker
          Ron Bonica
          Warren &quot;Ace&quot; Kumari

        Resources Requested:

        Special Requests:



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