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Re: [Int-area] Comments on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-06

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 30 January 2019 20:01 UTC

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To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Comments on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-06
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On 2019-01-31 03:13, Stewart Bryant wrote:
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>>> Add to section 7.3:
>>>
>>> "Routers SHOULD use IPv6 flow label for ECMP routing as described in [RFC6438]."
> 
> If we want to migrate to the FL then we really need to state that the FL MUST be set by the sender. Without, that we are never going to wean routers off looking at the five tuple, if indeed we ever succeed in doing that.

I would have loved to make it a MUST in RFC6437 but that wasn't the consensus, so it's a SHOULD, confirmed this very day by RFC8504 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8504#page-7).

As I said the other day, if and only if the flow label is non-zero, the {source, destination, flow_label} tuple is a fine thing for a load balancer to use. If the flow label is zero, you need to fall back to the 5-tuple, which is broken for fragmented packets as we know. So for IPv6 packets with a zero flow label and a fragmentation header, you have no choice but the {source, destination} tuple.

However, that is a much better picture than for IPv4.

    Brian

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