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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:47:35 +0800
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From: Pindar Wong <pindar.wong@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Internetgovtech] Guiding the Evolution of the IANA Protocol
 Parameter Registries
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fwiw also be mindful of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sui_generis_database_right

p.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m <paf@frobbit.se> wrot=
e:

> On 2014-03-13 06:23, Geoff Huston wrote:
> > I personally am in favour of a stronger statement of principle from the
> IETF in this area, but I'm just one voice, and I sense from the posts for
> Jari and Eliot that they are unwilling to head further in this direction =
-
> fair enough.
>
> FWIW, I support Geoff here, given the history we have seen not only in
> direct IETF history but also in other Internet related registries (for
> example various TLD-registries).
>
> That said, I at the same time agree with Jari and Eliot that the over
> all goal is in the principles. That finding a solution "is implementation=
".
>
> So, I just would like to have a stronger statement so this is not
> forgotten.
>
> The copyright for a parameter and its assigments should stay with
> whatever organization "owns" that parameter. Not belong to whoever acts
> as the care taker of the registry.
>
> That ICANN also say they do not have any interest as the operator in IPR
> for the registry is good, but if the registry operator changes, IPR
> issues I absolutely would like to see in the agreement(s).
>
> I am because of that of course sort of happy with what Jari and Eliot
> stated. This can be found in the principles.
>
> Just do not forget about it...
>
>    Patrik
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>fwiw also be mindful of <br><br><a href=3D"http://en.=
wikipedia.org/wiki/Sui_generis_database_right">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki=
/Sui_generis_database_right</a><br><br></div><div>p.</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Patrik =
F=E4ltstr=F6m <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paf@frobbit.se" targe=
t=3D"_blank">paf@frobbit.se</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
<div class=3D"">On 2014-03-13 06:23, Geoff Huston wrote:<br>
&gt; I personally am in favour of a stronger statement of principle from th=
e IETF in this area, but I&#39;m just one voice, and I sense from the posts=
 for Jari and Eliot that they are unwilling to head further in this directi=
on - fair enough.<br>

<br>
</div>FWIW, I support Geoff here, given the history we have seen not only i=
n<br>
direct IETF history but also in other Internet related registries (for<br>
example various TLD-registries).<br>
<br>
That said, I at the same time agree with Jari and Eliot that the over<br>
all goal is in the principles. That finding a solution &quot;is implementat=
ion&quot;.<br>
<br>
So, I just would like to have a stronger statement so this is not forgotten=
.<br>
<br>
The copyright for a parameter and its assigments should stay with<br>
whatever organization &quot;owns&quot; that parameter. Not belong to whoeve=
r acts<br>
as the care taker of the registry.<br>
<br>
That ICANN also say they do not have any interest as the operator in IPR<br=
>
for the registry is good, but if the registry operator changes, IPR<br>
issues I absolutely would like to see in the agreement(s).<br>
<br>
I am because of that of course sort of happy with what Jari and Eliot<br>
stated. This can be found in the principles.<br>
<br>
Just do not forget about it...<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
=A0 =A0Patrik<br>
<br>
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