Re: [Internetgovtech] Transition to the web

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 12 July 2014 01:11 UTC

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On 12/07/2014 11:38, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> On 12/07/2014 00:27, Christian de Larrinaga wrote:
>>> Good points. But I should be clearer.
>>>
>>> I was thinking of IANA as the contracted registry operator for those
>>> IANA considerations in RFCs.
>>> There is a cost to operating this which IETF as far as I am aware is not
>>> paying for.
>>>
>>> Who is paying?
>> It doesn't matter, unless one side or the other gives notice to cancel
>> the
>> IETF/ICANN MOU.
>>
>> >From a fairness PoV, domain name holders benefit from the existence
>> and viability of IETF protocols - without those protocols, there
>> would be no Internet traffic. So it's entirely reasonable that
>> the cost of the protocol registries is in practice a levy on domain
>> name holders. User pays.
>>
>>   
> More than that.. by designating ICANN to perform the IANA functions,
> IETF is essentially granting ICANN an exclusive license to charge for
> those functions.  I.e., IETF may not be paying, but they are providing
> something to ICANN for which ICANN can charge a fee.  (Not that
> different from a franchise agreement.  McDonald's doesn't pay its
> franchisees, the franchisees pay them.)

No we didn't and aren't. Please re-read clauses 4.4 and 4.5 of RFC 2860.

   Brian