Re: [Internetgovtech] The Internet, Architecture, Governance, Technical Work and Net History: A Speci

Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> Tue, 23 April 2019 12:21 UTC

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 19:21:24 +0700
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Dear All,

As Brian E. Carpenter referred the "Internet Architecture" to Internet
protocols and their designs (mentioned in my message April 21st 2019): it
looks "special" to mention "RFC 791: Internet Protocol" (J. Postel,
September 1981) and its histories -- those obsolete and updates: which is
about the name/title "Internet Protocol" they have....

https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc791

Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>; menulis:

> Dear Hesham and All,
>
>
> There is a need for correction for the earlier message:
>
> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed before--
> was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles of the
> Internet" (1996) as the latter considered complexity (control) in relation
> with the Internet in large scale...
>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt
>
> It should be:
>
> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed before--
> was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles of the
> Internet" (1996) as the first considered complexity (control) in relation
> with the Internet in large scale...
>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt
>
>
> Regard,
> Gintur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>;
> menulis:
>
>> Dear Hesham and All,
>>
>> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed
>> before-- was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles
>> of the Internet" (1996) as the latter considered complexity (control) in
>> relation with the Internet in large scale...
>>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>>
>> Pada Senin, 22 April 2019, Hesham ElBakoury <Hesham.ElBakoury@huawei.com>;
>> menulis:
>>
>>> I think you meant RFC1958 which is updated by RFC3439.
>>>
>>> Hesham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Architecture-discuss [mailto:architecture-discuss-b
>>> ounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 6:41 AM
>>> *To:* architecture-discuss@ietf.org; internetgovtech@iab.org;
>>> nethistory@ietf.org
>>> *Subject:* [arch-d] The Internet, Architecture, Governance, Technical
>>> Work and Net History: A Speci
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Of the question "What is the Internet Architecture?" mentioned in the
>>> earlier message:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian. E. Carpenter's text "RFC 1985: Architectural Principles of the
>>> Internet" mentioned about Internet protocols and their design: May this
>>> links helpful to get arrived there at related archives ( as the text did
>>> not use any online source but suppposedly paper ones as references)...:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - https://www.rfc-editor.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Here are  menus "Internet Standard", "Official Internet Protocol
>>> Standards", and "advanced search".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>>
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>> Pada Senin, 22 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>;
>>> menulis:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Individuals, or collectifs of individuals, are in an age of the
>>> Internet. It is such a presence may be approached and sensed by many ways
>>> --even when one said that s/he had just eat a food which a receipt was
>>> gotten by communicating by the Internet..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Among others there are presences of "the Internet Architecture",
>>> "Internet Governance and Technical Work" and "Net History" as they
>>> represent interest-based mailing lists. How could one get arrived into
>>> those matters (together) --such a programmatic readership/learning: as
>>> sources and concepts have history and discources collectives/net... ?
>>> Should we imagine about information sources by making such a readership
>>> based on the linkage between the three...? Thus we may say about "The
>>> Internet Architecture, Governance and Technical Works: a Net History" (to
>>> say "A Net History in Terms of The Internet Architecture, Governance and
>>> Technical Work)...? --there would be a discourse map on the special
>>> readership which is about a co-presence of mailing lists...? --as one may
>>> use search engines of each mailing list for related interests...?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To make an engagement with the programme should we go with such
>>> tentative journeys considering parts of the special readership...?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> By considering the reasoning above:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To the question on "What is the Internet Architecture?" we may refer to
>>> (archival) sources
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "RFC 1958: Architectural Principles of the Internet"
>>>
>>> (Carpenter, Brian E. Ed, IAB, 1996)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1958
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (Note:)
>>>
>>> It was a snapshot record of the principles of the Internet Achitecture
>>> intended for general guidance and general interest...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was updated by RFC 3439...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Both the concept "Internet Architecture" and the document RFC 1958 have
>>> history bringing readers to other relevant sources... They supposedly also
>>> give suggestions to come to broader or other conceptual discourses on
>>> "governance and technical work"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>>
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>>