Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community

John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org> Wed, 23 July 2014 20:56 UTC

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On Jul 23, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:

> I'd just like to register my agreement with Avri on this.
> 
> Please be so kind to review the table in this document:
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-scoping-08apr14-en.pdf
> 
> I clearly points to new accountability mechanisms needed for *all*
> functions.

The scoping document calls for "defining accountability mechanisms 
that would serve to replace the current stewardship role played by 
NTIA to ensure ICANN’s performance of the IANA functions based on 
the agreements and/or policies provided by the respective bodies 
(IETF, GNSO, RIRs, ASO, ccTLDs, ccNSO)."

In short, before one can meaningfully define any "new accountability 
mechanisms" with respect to protocol parameters or IP addresses that
would "replace the current stewardship role played by NTIA", you'll
first want to confirm that there is an operative NTIA stewardship 
role in these spaces to be replaced, i.e., some NTIA accountability 
mechanisms aside from the referenced agreements with the IAB & RIRs.
Otherwise, you stand to risk replacing the existing, well-functioning
IANA accountability mechanisms to these communities with something 
"new" and hence by definition unproven.

Thanks!
/John

Disclaimer: My views alone.