Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meeting Last Week are Available
John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org> Wed, 23 July 2014 01:13 UTC
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On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:58 PM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote: > According to a stewardship transition document there are 13 communities: ASO, ICC/BASIS, ISOC, NRO, IETF, IAB, SSAC, RSSAC, ALAC, GAC, GSNO, gTLD Registries and ccNSO. The draft charter mentions that the Functions are divided into three main categories. ... > It looks like the theory of those who came up with the plan is that a person will be able to find a representative in one of those communities to represent his or her interests. I don't see anything to support that theory in any of the materials; as I understand it, the coordinating group acts as liaisons for the solicitation of proposals, assembly of a complete proposal, and the related communications. > The draft charter also mentions that there are relevant community processes and it says that the coordination group may refer input it receives to the relevant community discussion. Relevant community processes are mentioned in the materials, so I imagine that will mean processes in each of the communities to come up with various proposals. Contacting a representative makes sense, but not to carry your views as much as find our the process in that community for participating and sharing your views therein. > Let's assume that you belong to the numbers community and you have an interest in names. I guess that you could contact a representative from https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/coordination-group-2014-06-17-en for advice. That's probably a fine starting point, but it would be even better if there were processes for each of the various communities to work on proposals. You could then get involved in each of the communities that you felt you had interest in. > One definition of conflict of interest is "when a person has separate duties to act in the best interest of two or more clients in relation to the same or related matter, and those duties conflict, or there is a significant risk that those duties may conflict". I would be increasing the risk by getting involved in a discussion about the numbers process. Strange; many folks that I know are involved in multiple communities, and I'd expect to see them involved in each of the processes to the extent that they are interested in such... This is no different than regular participants in IETF working groups; they participate as individuals (not representatives of any particular community) and their ideas are evaluated on merit rather than origin or imprimatur. I can understand a concern in clarity of participation by those on the ITG, but I do not know why it would be an issue for anyone else, (unless they somehow have been given a duty to formally represent one of these communities) /John Disclaimer: My views alone.
- [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meeting … Russ Housley
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Russ Housley
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- [Internetgovtech] Cross community (was: Re: ICANN… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- [Internetgovtech] off topic: labels (was Re: Docu… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] off topic: labels (was Re: … Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- [Internetgovtech] Policy aspects (was: Cross comm… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Policy aspects (was: Cross … John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community JFC Morfin
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Russ Housley
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Steve Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Steve Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Eric Burger
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Jari Arkko