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Steve Crocker <steve@shinkuro.com> Fri, 25 July 2014 12:56 UTC

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:) Thanks.

On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve,
> 
> You're quoting from a discussion of a strawman hypothetical case as if
> were an assertion about the real world. I meant that if such a situation
> were to arise, it would mean that there had been a failure of coordination.
> 
> We'd be better off having this conversation in French with correct
> use of the conditional subjunctive ;-).
> 
> Regards
>   Brian
> 
> On 25/07/2014 23:47, Steve Crocker wrote:
>> On Jul 25, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> ICANN is working on a new round of gTLDs or some such. Of course they
>>>> exclude already reserved TLDs, but not stuff that might be coming up
>>>> (because they don't know it).
>>> That's already a failure of coordination.
>> 
>> I don’t understand the basis for the above statements.
>> 
>> ICANN has not yet begun formulating the next round of gTLDs.  As part of the process, there will be consultation on what issues arose during the first round.  Consultation with the IETF re current and future reserved names is definitely and obviously part of what needs to be included.
>> 
>> There are multiple avenues of coordination between the IETF and ICANN.  The coordination is broad and deep.  Some of it is structural and some is pragmatic.  It is ongoing and effective.  The last important incident of uncoordinated activity that I’m aware was in another dimension entirely, viz the scheduling of meetings, and that was dealt with quite firmly.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
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