Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the states in RFC 6292
Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Wed, 31 August 2011 10:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the states in RFC 6292
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Hi Russ, On 2011-08-31 00:25 Russ Housley said: > Henrik: > > I see a problem with your proposal as I understand it. > > When there is a charter in place, a recharter is a discussion about > replacing that charter. The potential recharter can take many > revisions, and while this is happening, the original charter remain > the 'active' one. When the recharter is approved, it become the > 'active' one. So, during the recharter there are two documents in > play. You're right. The simplest way to handle this would be to simply let the charters be multiple documents, named for instance charter-foowg-00 with revs 00, 01, 02 etc (charter-foowg-00-00.txt etc.) charter-foowg-01 with revs 00, 01, 02 etc (charter-foowg-01-00.txt etc.) and publish the final, approved version as charter-foowg-00.txt, etc. if we want to keep exactly to the numbering scheme in the RFC. Then the charters would have different independent states. I guess we should then also introduce a state 'Superseded' or 'Obsoleted' or 'Historic' for old charters once new ones has been put in place. There could also be a replaces/replaced-by relationship linking the documents. Do you think that would work? Best regards, Henrik > Russ > > > On Aug 30, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> While implementing the WG Charter tool, we discovered a potential problem >> with the state description in RFC 6292, >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6292 >> >> The RFC describes one set of review states for a WG during initial >> chartering, and another set of review states during re-chartering: >> >> Initial: >> o Informal IESG review >> o Internal review >> o External review >> o IESG review >> o WG exists >> o Not currently under review >> >> Rechartering: >> o WG exists; Informal IESG recharter review >> o WG exists; Internal recharter review >> o WG exists; External recharter review >> >> Now, the objects which exists in the database which are relevant for >> the chartering process are two: A *WG Object* (which before the RFC 6292 >> extensions can be in one of two states: 'Active' and 'Concluded'), and a >> *Document Object*, the Charter, which potentially can get any set of >> appropriate states we care to assign it. >> >> There is no 'WG Review' object to hold a 'review state', and there seems >> to be a mixture in what the review states listed above applies to - WG, >> charter, or a review process. >> >> Our suggestion, and the way we have implemented this in the code currently, >> is to split the states up as described below. From these states, all of >> the 'review states' above can be synthesized if desired, although we would >> propose that it's more straightforward to display the WG state and the >> Charter document state directly: >> >> * The WG object keeps its current states, and gets a new one: >> o Proposed >> o Active >> o Concluded >> >> * The Charter Document Object gets the following states: >> o Informal IESG Review >> o Informal IESG review >> o Internal review >> o External review >> o IESG review >> o Not currently under review >> o Approved >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Henrik >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> iola-wgcharter-tool mailing list >> iola-wgcharter-tool@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iola-wgcharter-tool > >
- [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the states… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the st… Russ Housley
- Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the st… Martin Qvist
- Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the st… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the st… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the st… Martin Qvist
- Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the st… Russ Housley
- Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] A question about the st… Martin Qvist