Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] Trial site available for WG Charter Tool
Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Tue, 13 September 2011 19:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] Trial site available for WG Charter Tool
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I haven't seen any response to this. I'd still like to help test the tool, but can't make progress without feedback. RjS On Sep 1, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > I tried to test this tool this afternoon, and quickly ran into a crash - the traceback is attached. > > Some questions/observations to help with my next attempt to test: > > 1) It was not obvious where the tool was - Henrik pointed me to the new "Working Groups" link under > the secretariat portion of the left navigation bar. Is that the only point of entry? > > 2) I tried to create a new group from scratch leading to the attached crash - The crash happened before it > asked me for charter text - was that going to be on the next page? On the page that it did provide me, it asked > several questions that seem to be out of place (or at least fairly high-impedence) - asking for a mailing list, > the subscription link, and the archive link separately. It's also asking for chairs/advisors/etc at the very beginning. > In the normal case for a brand new working group, that's information that will come later. Is it the expectation that > the initial form will have lots of empty fields when submitted - if so, would it make more sense to design an initial > form that captured what would normally be populated, and an edit form that let you add these other things as they > became available? > > 3) How do you start an action on an existing working group? Is that integrated into the existing working group pages > in any way? (It's really not obvious that you should hit the "create WG" button if you're wanting to start a charter update > effort.) > > 4) You might consider offering a way to edit a charter version online instead of only through a file upload. > > 5) I tried to take the AUN group that's there through to approved so I could start a recharter effort on that > (to see if I could get a charter-ietf-aun-01-00). But I can't see how it's possible to do that. Can you describe the path > for me? (This might be the same answer as for 3). > > 6) Is there anything that the tool does when a charter is marked as in the approved state other than just capturing > that state? Does it touch any other tables/create or update the published wg charter/etc. or is it expected that is still > manual secretariat action? > > RjS > > <AttributeError at _wgrecord_create_.html> > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> >> Date: August 30, 2011 5:20:30 PM CDT >> To: IESG <iesg@ietf.org> >> Cc: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> >> Subject: Fwd: Trial site available for WG Charter Tool >> >> Since ADs will be the users of this tool, I would like to have a few volunteers to make sure it does what we want. >> >> Russ >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> >>> Date: August 30, 2011 11:25:49 AM EDT >>> To: iola-wgcharter-tool@ietf.org, Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@isoc.org> >>> Subject: [iola-wgcharter-tool] Trial site available for WG Charter Tool >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The developer (Martin Qvist, IOLA) has now indicated that he's done with >>> the development of the WG Charter tool (as far as he can tell, from his >>> end of things). >>> >>> There is a trial version of the tool available here: >>> >>> http://beta.iola.dk:10003/ >>> >>> It would be helpful if we could get some testers to exercise the tool >>> now! >>> >>> >>> (There is one issue which I'll take up for discussion in a separate message; >>> and that's a possible issue with the specification rather than the code.) >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Henrik >> >
- [iola-wgcharter-tool] Trial site available for WG… Henrik Levkowetz
- [iola-wgcharter-tool] Fwd: Trial site available f… Robert Sparks
- Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] Fwd: Trial site availab… Martin Qvist
- Re: [iola-wgcharter-tool] Trial site available fo… Robert Sparks