Re: [Iot-directorate] [E] Re: Question on IETF IOT-devices scope

"Chakrabarti, Samita" <samita.chakrabarti@verizon.com> Tue, 16 March 2021 21:56 UTC

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Thanks Barry, for your comments.

>From the list discussions, it appears that IoT@IETF definition is not
confined to 'low-power constrained' devices any more.

Thanks to all for the feedback.
-Samita

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 6:14 PM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:

> To my sense, the Internet of things is quite broad, and must include
> severely constrained devices such as remote sensors, trackers and
> actuators, less constrained devices such as home devices (consider smart
> TVs and thermostats), and unconstrained devices such as home gateways and
> cloud services that support the system.  I consider parts of the
> infrastructure such as my calendar to constitute part of the system,
> coordinating activities and helping to schedule events.  Amazon Alexa and
> that ilk of devices count as well, and aren’t very constrained.
>
> Given that, my answer is “yes”: we need to look at IoT holistically, and
> shouldn’t artificially say that we only look at issues involving
> constrained devices.
>
> Barry
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 5:56 PM Chakrabarti, Samita <samita.chakrabarti=
> 40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> In pre-IETF IOT-DIRECTORATE meeting, Ted Lemon has pointed to two
>> documents regarding connecting the Thread Mesh networks to the traditional
>> IP Infrastructure:
>> 1) (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lemon-stub-networks-ps/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dlemon-2Dstub-2Dnetworks-2Dps_&d=DwMFaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=pWMzx7FsqijEJPyfMBfn-HJss-wVVTf0K5y-cxCTXL8&m=hHN-lkRuhgkC8QGwa5IclnCoOqQJxuq-cLUiGdX6kC0&s=-wgXAAFXs38XMsB3tJg6ctUm3gQy8yfcCCaj_L__85k&e=>)
>> - Problem Statement
>> 2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lemon-stub-networks/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dlemon-2Dstub-2Dnetworks_&d=DwMFaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=pWMzx7FsqijEJPyfMBfn-HJss-wVVTf0K5y-cxCTXL8&m=hHN-lkRuhgkC8QGwa5IclnCoOqQJxuq-cLUiGdX6kC0&s=Rp-ITDKuq38e_cbSRd1BuQw6pCRdcfS23A-2YSpDAGU&e=>
>>        - A possible solution
>>
>> IoT-Directorate co-chairs and the responsible ADs would like to discuss
>> if it makes sense to extend the IOT-Directorate charter towards less
>> constrained devices such as some of the home devices considered as 'things'.
>>
>> The charter of the directorate says : (
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/iotdir/about/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_group_iotdir_about_&d=DwMFaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=pWMzx7FsqijEJPyfMBfn-HJss-wVVTf0K5y-cxCTXL8&m=hHN-lkRuhgkC8QGwa5IclnCoOqQJxuq-cLUiGdX6kC0&s=cZ3B7VYgVUFL3QEIz7elvDeZjsWvZ1UzO4aGykm0xg4&e=>
>> )
>>
>> "The Internet of Things (IoT) refers to devices, that are often
>> constrained in communication and computation capabilities, now becoming
>> more commonly connected to the Internet, and various services that are
>> built on top of the capabilities these devices jointly provide. It is
>> expected that this development will usher in more machine-to-machine
>> communication using the Internet with no human user actively involved."
>>
>> Should IoT-Directorate members consider Thread Mesh stub networks as one
>> of topics under IOT-DIR scope of discussion or part of IoT work?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Samita
>>
>>
>>
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