Re: [Iot-directorate] [E] Re: Question on IETF IOT-devices scope

Yes, no doubt ThreadsMesh  was based on IEEE802.15.4 technologies.
Connecting them to the IP infrastructure  through some kind of gateway
perhaps should fall into IoT discussions as well. In addition,  these
documents will give us an excuse to find out whether the community thinks
if IoT@IETF should consider things beyond 'constrained nodes'. ( AR/VR
devices, video cameras, mobile robots etc.).

Thanks,
-Samita

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 6:17 PM Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> Samita, fwiw, Thread is an 802.15.4 6lowpan mesh using technology
> developed in the IETF, quite a bit of it in “IoT” working groups. I don’t
> think there’s really any question as to whether this work is IoT-relevant.
> We’d certainly appreciate review from the IoT directorate when the time is
> right.
>
> On Mar 15, 2021, at 18:10, Schooler, Eve M <eve.m.schooler@intel.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> For some time, I have been wanting the IETF’s definition of IoT to mean
> more than constrained devices (Carsten is probably tired of me raising this
> point in T2T!). While constrained devices are certainly an interesting
> class of IoT, so are (i) low-latency IoT domains and (ii) Edge IoT contexts
> that generate lots of data and disrupt where the compute, control, and data
> management need to reside.
>
> My 2c’s,
>
> Eve
>
>
>
> *From:* Iot-directorate <iot-directorate-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Chakrabarti,
> Samita
> *Sent:* Monday, March 15, 2021 2:56 PM
> *To:* IETF IoT Directorate <iot-directorate@ietf.org>; Eric Vyncke
> (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com>; Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>;
> Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com>; Erik Kline <
> ek.ietf@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [Iot-directorate] Question on IETF IOT-devices scope
>
>
>
> Hello All:
>
>
>
> In pre-IETF IOT-DIRECTORATE meeting, Ted Lemon has pointed to two
> documents regarding connecting the Thread Mesh networks to the traditional
> IP Infrastructure:
>
> 1) (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lemon-stub-networks-ps/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dlemon-2Dstub-2Dnetworks-2Dps_&d=DwMFaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=pWMzx7FsqijEJPyfMBfn-HJss-wVVTf0K5y-cxCTXL8&m=JmPuPyXeTxAqlOhoomieUSjR1F-J-7-eL4Ub7YpU6q8&s=EsbR7QFbAcsYvaomP7jcEG73FIvpFzimUpIdNwM9YaA&e=>)
> - Problem Statement
>
> 2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lemon-stub-networks/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dlemon-2Dstub-2Dnetworks_&d=DwMFaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=pWMzx7FsqijEJPyfMBfn-HJss-wVVTf0K5y-cxCTXL8&m=JmPuPyXeTxAqlOhoomieUSjR1F-J-7-eL4Ub7YpU6q8&s=u3aYELf8UGT75ecqZrLh-3Pt2hErPna1AX8v0gkX9xk&e=>
>        - A possible solution
>
>
>
> IoT-Directorate co-chairs and the responsible ADs would like to discuss if
> it makes sense to extend the IOT-Directorate charter towards less
> constrained devices such as some of the home devices considered as 'things'.
>
> The charter of the directorate says : (
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/iotdir/about/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_group_iotdir_about_&d=DwMFaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=pWMzx7FsqijEJPyfMBfn-HJss-wVVTf0K5y-cxCTXL8&m=JmPuPyXeTxAqlOhoomieUSjR1F-J-7-eL4Ub7YpU6q8&s=0HMolfPtiinE0XngAgopm6NaScvoub4M65CdlAMFJD8&e=>
> )
>
> "The Internet of Things (IoT) refers to devices, that are often
> constrained in communication and computation capabilities, now becoming
> more commonly connected to the Internet, and various services that are
> built on top of the capabilities these devices jointly provide. It is
> expected that this development will usher in more machine-to-machine
> communication using the Internet with no human user actively involved."
>
> Should IoT-Directorate members consider Thread Mesh stub networks as one
> of topics under IOT-DIR scope of discussion or part of IoT work?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Samita
>
>
>
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