Re: [Iot-directorate] Iotdir telechat review of draft-ietf-core-dev-urn-09

Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Thu, 07 January 2021 20:55 UTC

Return-Path: <dthaler@microsoft.com>
X-Original-To: iot-directorate@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: iot-directorate@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C901C3A0E9E; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:55:08 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.351
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.351 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.25, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=microsoft.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IPwJhxizFaCK; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:55:07 -0800 (PST)
Received: from NAM12-MW2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-mw2nam12on2110.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.244.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E91FE3A0E9D; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:55:06 -0800 (PST)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=TcQeCOtflRIuIRuJ+JtF3dNdqT7vX4BZbswgHiR0eWyzeYLMW3n6J1iIYgA2KKtGTRmnKFBKsy9Ao3JG0FSxCd6zqUjhVrJCNUgh1+USOTjm33gJK4HtvklpNSd4nc0F4Ic+FSUvK69XysQ0HVccjloC05I00eYprDiWJh17p8KdDoVhE0NdmkSpMPzM/0i2/our0WSMieakRfzuzkB2mOSBVBj8kTf9ZIX3j+3SXoou8vuzhJsm11IWYc0g/GqGC87YJpUxIF6/CL0mhaRWqLQoxXtxDXogbNJKrj7pTUWC1etNxovfYjbO1Q+BmMeKnaOs8oIYyhGB5V+YZ1FsRw==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=4C2THo8TO7XBO8lM6pUSiuIR+RSKIUtJcVJx7l+n3UQ=; b=oGDkznt77aYQjEfmjJzi2I5oI8xaj1S88vERQytafnnthdzzYyKRUAXhUgp3zjaAlCI3uwUVAOKq24quWZ/tUipK5a1M336Xgoj8ZKhTtV70/5WXD47XXpM25aF+h7yJ5Ae2iL971TYXzbq7wO/dR4FgPv7FoMM1wCkyP+v0wlovw0VzOPACKcWFKooZ3jmduQ8JJI2kq/2njHUbbLDfW2hcHAObpKRWkB///E82O6T+gptI55nAPbJEb52DotLlkshrqrrzMFmm9N+oRTVMSAR3Z5/b92HPRfawpkeJ3I8xVQ0FC0781GskRYOd0i3GvDsIe5Wb0ayXItXVg0JUww==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=microsoft.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=microsoft.com; dkim=pass header.d=microsoft.com; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=selector2; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=4C2THo8TO7XBO8lM6pUSiuIR+RSKIUtJcVJx7l+n3UQ=; b=Od4oPM7qjSLRkOhHAAG9zv1dNkWMWWcHP95vNPW/qTQ0QHpUmdaWx/CNofIrfiFkfXy7W/cAxHyDeSTriXTmcg6RH4e3ZkOlXQBxl+YQbu6wxWjxEOi+R1AIr7J6fCOkV9X6fuywS0wEdpQ7D9ZaBqHb9ge8IfNyoaOc3Mjmbl4=
Received: from (2603:10b6:903:13b::16) by CY4PR21MB0469.namprd21.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:903:db::19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3763.2; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 20:55:02 +0000
Received: from CY4PR21MB0790.namprd21.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::8c0c:c142:356c:5542]) by CY4PR21MB0790.namprd21.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::8c0c:c142:356c:5542%10]) with mapi id 15.20.3763.004; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 20:55:02 +0000
From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
To: "Éric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, "iot-directorate@ietf.org" <iot-directorate@ietf.org>
CC: "draft-ietf-core-dev-urn.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-core-dev-urn.all@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Iot-directorate] Iotdir telechat review of draft-ietf-core-dev-urn-09
Thread-Index: AQHW5QBEUyW1DGqeXUmd1Pz3pL7ZTqocpBfA
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 20:55:02 +0000
Message-ID: <CY4PR21MB07905E42CFE7F65DD3B387ABA3AF9@CY4PR21MB0790.namprd21.prod.outlook.com>
References: <160996930502.21827.5533521556349871834@ietfa.amsl.com> <D4AE6588-48D0-4CE9-9701-D38D575F1E3F@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <D4AE6588-48D0-4CE9-9701-D38D575F1E3F@cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
msip_labels: MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Enabled=true; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_SetDate=2021-01-07T20:54:59Z; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Method=Standard; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Name=Internal; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_SiteId=72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_ActionId=a6e99949-85e5-4948-a6b1-de790f77ebf9; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_ContentBits=0
authentication-results: dmarc.ietf.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc.ietf.org; dmarc=none action=none header.from=microsoft.com;
x-originating-ip: [2601:600:9700:15e:5452:f1d1:a0b2:9fa8]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-ht: Tenant
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 7dff2f1d-f7d1-413b-6782-08d8b34e80cb
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: CY4PR21MB0469:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <CY4PR21MB0469215E05B0050DB8750C64A3AF9@CY4PR21MB0469.namprd21.prod.outlook.com>
x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:7691;
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: evcbq54rHxz6b/ef+yv5hZcVju2VyqAuObjlD5/RvEtOhXlFPutrotRNYvpqYBQFI/8LquraR5H5NljCbqIzxgqSdWBMsJjbFqsE8BFzuLXHznJeS56MnL2hDUmseQ+fIiKD8adMojj4JkBSoGJ+4iFpAxv8Ce4BP2o3xF6qmbq7wxt6KA/DERdaXVS7Ij0PJVbYLmGCVpLgXoZW6bnv8WiU2TrbvzdKzLewDn82eEXhDicBJ7XWqS+Ikz2ZuIODavtvSepb3jCq38phuwf9ndV0wRrp+tWRXAeqa3/FecIopKXVqX2e8eqm2OHHxaOXobPGf9O0pGgdi1vB44dsiBwZHoPQsrjmLqvgA78Wf2zKgIeuOGcyEOyoWKOS3HHD
x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:CY4PR21MB0790.namprd21.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(4636009)(39860400002)(346002)(396003)(136003)(376002)(366004)(478600001)(316002)(76116006)(52536014)(4326008)(86362001)(66574015)(10290500003)(4744005)(8676002)(110136005)(186003)(8936002)(33656002)(82950400001)(82960400001)(8990500004)(66556008)(64756008)(66476007)(66446008)(55016002)(71200400001)(5660300002)(66946007)(6506007)(2906002)(9686003)(7696005); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102;
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: 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
x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CY4PR21MB07905E42CFE7F65DD3B387ABA3AF9CY4PR21MB0790namp_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: CY4PR21MB0790.namprd21.prod.outlook.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 7dff2f1d-f7d1-413b-6782-08d8b34e80cb
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 07 Jan 2021 20:55:02.2050 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: xfS3owUH/3iyKsH1NKXrM9jTO4Fs37KzwUFH6MSv7ZhE03a85prIT5J6hmVcJg5m2Zz9f+ZeuTxrP7O6jNk7vgCfQ9d6fqeNf/0VmFtMDTQ=
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY4PR21MB0469
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/iot-directorate/YzzWvNqsCe9Jqz4G5yG0ogKw3js>
Subject: Re: [Iot-directorate] Iotdir telechat review of draft-ietf-core-dev-urn-09
X-BeenThere: iot-directorate@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Mailing list for the IoT Directorate Members <iot-directorate.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/iot-directorate>, <mailto:iot-directorate-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/iot-directorate/>
List-Post: <mailto:iot-directorate@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:iot-directorate-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iot-directorate>, <mailto:iot-directorate-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 20:55:09 -0000

One comment below in response to Russ.  I will send my own review later today:

>    Section 3.2.1 says:

>

>       ... and a MAC address could be represented either with

>       uppercase or lowercase hexadecimal digits.

>

>    This is not allowed by the ABNF:

>

>       hexstring = 1*(hexdigit hexdigit)

>       hexdigit = DIGIT / "a" / "b" / "c" / "d" / "e" / "f"

>

>    If both cases are to be supported, the upper case letters need to be

>    added to the ABNF to permit them.



That is not correct.  It is already allowed by the ABNF.

RFC 5234 explains:



ABNF strings are case insensitive and the character set for these

      strings is US-ASCII.



   Hence:



         rulename = "abc"



   and:



         rulename = "aBc"



   will match "abc", "Abc", "aBc", "abC", "ABc", "aBC", "AbC", and

   "ABC".



      To specify a rule that is case sensitive, specify the characters

      individually.



   For example:



         rulename    =  %d97 %d98 %d99



   or



         rulename    =  %d97.98.99



   will match only the string that comprises only the lowercase

   characters, abc.



Dave