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Mohit Sethi M <mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com> Tue, 10 December 2019 13:31 UTC

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From: Mohit Sethi M <mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com>
To: sandoche Balakrichenan <sandoche.balakrichenan@afnic.fr>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "iot-onboarding@ietf.org" <iot-onboarding@ietf.org>, "Eduardo.ingles@um.es" <eduardo.ingles@um.es>
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Hi Sandoche,

I was involved in the development of EAP-NOOB during the early days. 
Back then, we had received a request from Rhys Smith and Josh Howlett 
(from JISC who are involved with eduroam in the UK) for adding roaming 
support.

EAP-NOOB does support roaming. Please look at: 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-aura-eap-noob-07#appendix-D for more 
information. If you have some requirements that are not met, please feel 
free to suggest them to the EMU working group 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/emu/about/).

I don't know the specific limitations of LoRaWAN. Our colleague, Eduardo 
(in CC), from the University of Murcia has worked on a light-weight 
implementation of EAP-NOOB in Contiki. I am sure he can provide you some 
pointers.

--Mohit

On 12/9/19 11:40 PM, sandoche Balakrichenan wrote:
>
> On 09/12/2019 18:45, Michael Richardson wrote:
>> Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
>>      > I think what you are aiming for is a LoRa-enabled router that 
>> can do a
>>      > radius transaction that has the appropriate federated wrapper, 
>> such as
>>      > PEAP/EAP-TLS.  Will the LoRa device know its home network?
>>
>> At bytes/day?
>
> ==> Absolutely.
>
> Alternatives could be : 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-aura-eap-noob/?include_text=1
>
> and evolving standards from the LAKE WG 
> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/lake/about/) using a PKI
>
>>
>> I don't think that it is network onboarding, but application 
>> onboarding that
>> is desired.
>>
> ==> Application onboarding is for the LoRaWAN scenario.
>
> Don't we have the need for network onboarding for other IoT networks?
>
> The objective is to come with a generic solution, if possible.
>
> Sandoche.
>

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