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Re: [Iot-onboarding] Side Meeting @ IETF 106: Monday 8:30am VIP A

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Wed, 06 November 2019 20:28 UTC

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 15:28:34 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Iot-onboarding] Side Meeting @ IETF 106: Monday 8:30am VIP A
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Hi Dan,

We didn’t take minutes, but I can summarize the topic here.

We spent a fair amount of time talking about how DPP worked, and how it could be extended to cover the AAA use case.  We talked about its inputs and how it might be leveraged by other mechanisms.  One thing we looked at was whether one could seed TEAP through the DPP transaction for purposes of processing a CSR.  That requires a binding between the two transactions.  It would probably be good to step through all of that.

Eliot

> On 6 Nov 2019, at 15:14, Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>   Hi ELiot,
> 
>   Is there a document or meeting minutes or something to get an idea about what
> the "whole lot of talk" entailed? I note there's 15 minutes in the proto agenda
> to discuss NIST's comments on DPP so if there was a list of issues or questions
> or something I could prep with it might make our IETF meeting more productive.
> 
>   thanks and see ya in Singapore,
> 
>   Dan.
> 
> On 11/6/19 4:04 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> A great many of us have had our heads down in developing some code, and this list has been quiet.  We had a very good meeting this week at Cisco with some folk including NIST about furthering the taxonomy work and developing opportunities for proofs of concept.  There was a whole lot of talk about Wifi Alliance’s DPP, and some additional discussion about other standards being developed outside the IETF, as well as TEAP and BRSKI.
>> 
>> I think it would be good to have a more detailed discussion at the IETF.  It seems like there is a very nice convergence possible for work involving multiple SDOs.
>> 
>> Date: Monday, November 18th, 8:30am
>> Room: VIP A
>> Time: 8:30 - 9:45
>> 
>> Eliot
>> 
>> 
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