Re: [Iotops] Martin Duke's Block on charter-ietf-iotops-00-17: (with BLOCK)

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Wed, 03 February 2021 19:20 UTC

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2021 20:19:52 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Iotops] Martin Duke's Block on charter-ietf-iotops-00-17: (with BLOCK)
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Please no.  Either create the group or don’t.  We’ve been talking about it since Benoit was an AD.

> On 3 Feb 2021, at 19:46, Martin Duke via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
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> Martin Duke has entered the following ballot position for
> charter-ietf-iotops-00-17: Block
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> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
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> I hate to do this the second time through, but I'm happy to clear it after the
> telechat after a brief discussion makes it clear I am very wrong...
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> I recognize that this WG is more focused on discussion and sharing that more
> standards-directed ones, but I'm a bit uncomfortable with the open-endedness of
> the charter. While there are bounds on the scope, there are no real success
> criteria that we can use to evaluate this WG after a certain period of time.
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> Would it be worthwhile to BoF this first to set some basic milestones for this
> WG? Do we already have these milestones in someone's head, that we can write
> down?
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> I definitely support formation of a WG with this theme, with a little
> tightening as described above.
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