[Iotops] Brendan Slide 4 --- Path Forward

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Fri, 31 March 2023 03:20 UTC

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    bm> Path forward • This draft is likely to keep expanding
    bm> • Next
    bm> requirement set to add is ETSI “Cyber Security for Consumer Internet
    bm> of Things: Baseline Requirements”

I think you mean ETSI 303 645?
(wow, people copy this document all over the place... )

I agree that this is the *next* requirement, and it might add one or two new
things, but mostly, it's not that an original document :-)
{not a criticism: it would be bad if it said anything surprising}

    bm> • Many more: • IoTSF • GSMA • IEC •
    bm> ISOC/OTA • NEMA

For IoTSF, you won't find anything new, as it mostly refers to ETSI and IEC
documents.   For IEC maybe you are referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_62443

It might have a few interesting things to say, and we might even disagree
with them.  But, I don't think it will add much.

I can't speak for GSMA, ISOC/OTA or NEMA.

    bm> • Need more authors to handle the mapping of so many
    bm> requirements

I have volunteered.

Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
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