Re: [Iotsi] New IoT effort at

Tim Coote <> Tue, 23 August 2016 12:52 UTC

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> I think what you are saying is that there are white label products out
> there.  It is true that one might simply not ask the question.  I don't
> find that particularly satisfying, and I know my enterprise friends are
> even less enthralled.  They need a way to identify what is accessing
> their networks.
Not just white label products. Most consumer oriented IoT like systems only focus on the happy-path. As there’s no integration and the owners are early adopters, that’s fine.  Industrial Thing Makers tend to be domain experts in the industry, and have very immature s/w engineering awareness. The question needs to be asked. There may be an answer. For some usecases, it will be possible to trust the answer.
> Sure.  That amounts to NEA, perhaps with a protocol tweak here or
> there.  But the challenge is getting Things to divulge ANY information
> in a way that doesn't actually place them on
Never seen shodan before. Seems to confuse Address, Name and Identity.  NEA sounds like a good idea to me. But I’ve not read it (yet). Thanks for introducing that, too.