SIP now IPv6
Dave Katz <dkatz@cisco.com> Fri, 25 December 1992 00:08 UTC
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From: Dave Katz <dkatz@cisco.com>
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In-Reply-To: Dave Crocker's message of Thu, 24 Dec 92 14:52:08 -0800 <9212242252.AA18353@Mordor.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: SIP now IPv6
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Actually I suspect that more ARP implementations will break than will IPv4 implementations (unless the IP header checksum field is in the same place in SIP as IPv4), since these are notoriously bad about checking all of the fields. I think it will be difficult to demonstrate that this does not cause problem with existing implementations until it is far too late to change it (i.e., after broad deployment). I would make the claim that conservative engineering practices suggest that the right place to do demultiplexing is the place where it is already known to work, as opposed to a place where it is not done in practice. Org: The Branch Office, Sunnyvale CA Phone: +1 408 246 8253; fax: +1 408 249 6205 Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 14:52:08 -0800 From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@Mordor.Stanford.EDU> X-Mts: smtp HWB, et al., Always interesting to see straightforward engineering work become politicized. But since the discussion has finally gotten into the realm of technical options, I'd like to suggest that the IP version field is _exactly_ the right place to mark the difference, unless there is strong evidence that it truly isn't viable, technically. The protocol is trying to run on top of all the existing IPv4 sub-network support, e.g., Arp. The protocol is, in fact, a technical delta of v4. The service interface to the upper layers is also a straight delta. In other words, the damn thing really is a variant of IPv4. So, use of the IP version number field makes sense. If this turns out to break existing implementations -- assuming that SIP-as-IPv6 shows up in its pure, unencapsulated form at IPv4-only systems -- then I agree this should be rethought. But if we are attempting to develop a running system, then every piece that is different from the intended final form leaves us open to the charge of doing unrealistic testing or of creating problems that do not apply to the final system. Dave
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