Re: Réf. : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75)
Bernhard Collini-Nocker <bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at> Tue, 07 July 2009 15:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: Réf. : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75)
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Sure, the scope should be well-defined such that there is little or no overlap. On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Marie-Jose Montpetit wrote: > No but they support all the rest of the ground infrastructure... I am just > saying there are valuable approaches we do not need to re-invent. > > /mjm > On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Bernhard Collini-Nocker wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Marie-Jose Montpetit wrote: >>> Do you mean a complete revamp like in clean slate or just accepting that >>> satellite networks are "just another network" and adopt something done >>> elsewhere in 3GPP or TISPAN? >> >> Perhaps I miss an important detail, but do 3GPP or TISPAN deal with and/or >> support rx-only devices and boot-strapping of those? >> >>> /mjm >> >> --Bernhard >> >>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:36 AM, cedric.baudoin@thalesaleniaspace.com wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> This is a really important topic. I do agree that a complete revamp of >>>> the signaling is a key point if we want to improve the interoperability >>>> and to address "all IP satcom systems" (or at least IP friendly ;-) ) >>>> Best regards >>>> Cédric Baudoin >>>> <graycol.gif>Bernhard Collini-Nocker <bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at> >>>> <ecblank.gif> >>>> <ecblank.gif> >>>> Bernhard Collini-Nocker <bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at> >>>> Envoyé par : owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk >>>> 07/07/2009 09:00 >>>> Veuillez répondre à ipdvb >>>> <ecblank.gif> >>>> Pour : ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk >>>> cc : Objet : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) >>>> Dear all, >>>> in my opinion there is a need to get rid of the transport stream >>>> encapsulated PSI/SI sections/tables in the second generation DVB systems >>>> for signaling purposes, especially in those cases where only Generic >>>> Stream Encapsulation is being used. Essentially there are two kinds of >>>> signaling, one for physical link and network properties, and the other >>>> one for services. The latter one is well addressed by all those parties >>>> interested in AV/TV/... over IP, whereas the first one is still delt >>>> with so-called backward compatibility mode (so TS encapsulated signaling >>>> sections). Although ULE/GSE provide an extension header for carrying TS >>>> packets, this is a suboptimal choice given that any kind of signaling >>>> shall support unidirectional mode of operation and boot strapping of >>>> rx-only devices. >>>> This is not to propose a solution rather than to point out that there is >>>> standardisation work needed in this area. Whether it fits in the ipdvb >>>> agenda is to be discussed. >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Bernhard >>>> Gorry Fairhurst schrieb: >>>>> Can I remind the group that if people think the ipdvb working group >>>>> should continue, then they need to tell Martin and me some important >>>>> topics that need to be addressed - please send email to us or the list. >>>>> If anyone would like to use a few slides to talk about topics that are >>>>> important, please let me know, and we can allocate some agenda time. >>>>> The provisional agenda is at: >>>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09jul/agenda/ipdvb.txt >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> Gorry Fairhurst >>>>> (ipdvb Chair) >>> >>> Marie-Jose Montpetit >>> marie@mjmontpetit.com >>> >>> >>> > > Marie-Jose Montpetit > marie@mjmontpetit.com > > >
- IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Carsten Bormann
- Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Bernhard Collini-Nocker
- Réf. : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) cedric.baudoin
- Re: Réf. : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: Réf. : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Bernhard Collini-Nocker
- Re: Réf. : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: Réf. : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Bernhard Collini-Nocker
- Re: Réf. : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Ana Yun
- Re: Réf. : Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Carsten Bormann
- Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda (IETF-75) Ang Way Chuang
- ROHC-over-802 (was: Re: IPDVB Provisional Agenda … Carsten Bormann