Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (4984)
"Brian Trammell (IETF)" <ietf@trammell.ch> Tue, 18 April 2017 15:02 UTC
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From: "Brian Trammell (IETF)" <ietf@trammell.ch>
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 17:01:56 +0200
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Subject: Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (4984)
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Hi, all, You can't raise an erratum against the registry, but 7013 provides for interoperable revisions to Information Elements to correct errors (section 5.2 criterion 2 holds). Cheers, Brian > On 06 Apr 2017, at 15:45, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote: > > It depends on what IANA think, but it's only about an hour to write and the reviews will all go though on the nod. > > Of course as an AD Benoit may just be able to direct that that this obvious correction happens. > > Stewart > > > On 06/04/2017 14:23, Andrew Feren wrote: >> What about an errata on 5102 with a note that that the definitions have moved to the registry? Seems like an odd end run, but if it solves the problem... >> >> -Andrew >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IPFIX [ipfix-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of PJ Aitken [pjaitken@brocade.com] >> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:37 AM >> To: Stewart Bryant; quittek@netlab.nec.de; stbryant@cisco.com; bclaise@cisco.com; paitken@cisco.com; jemeyer@paypal.com; joelja@bogus.com; n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz; quittek@neclab.eu >> Cc: ipfix@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (4984) >> >> That would be possible, though it seems like a lot of effort for the >> addition of two clarifying words, "least significant" ? >> >> P. >> >> >> On 06/04/17 10:29, Stewart Bryant wrote: >>> Paul >>> >>> If necessary you could write a one page RFC asking IANA to add a note >>> to the registry. >>> >>> Stewart >>> >>> >>> On 05/04/2017 19:16, PJ Aitken wrote: >>>> I should point out that although RFC 5102 has been obsoleted by RFC >>>> 7012, 7012 doesn't actually contain any Information Element >>>> definitions; it simply points to IANA's IPFIX registry as the >>>> normative reference for Element definitions. >>>> >>>> So the issue doesn't arise in 7012, and I suspect it's not possible >>>> to raise an errata against the registry. >>>> >>>> P. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30/03/17 13:45, RFC Errata System wrote: >>>>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5102, >>>>> "Information Model for IP Flow Information Export". >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>> You may review the report below and at: >>>>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url%3fu%3dhttps-3A__www.rfc-2Deditor.org_errata-5Fsearch.php-3Frfc-3D5102-26eid-3D4984%26d%3dDwIC-g%26c%3dIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg%26r%3dl3qN-NVkUTPhhRxKVpFXRDjrG3WNcj_6aGqXB9E7JYU%26m%3dlbHlVRM8W9dbZUz-UVd1z1hzVa3rIiNL-6zIIFo8oMo%26s%3dqFdcGTGJe09BgcdUjB6EszW7hMzekalZnfj8wx5JlNw%26e%3d&c=E,1,POSFjbIcmfzya-gNUP5rX4D4UfQQg4AwYC59vms0nF1wQWLNUVnaAiF5ob6Uae9OGK7KJmApL2_YmgpwUhW4gYwEcADORoaJSQoTSL3CL1vf&typo=1 >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>> Type: Technical >>>>> Reported by: Paul Aitken <pjaitken@brocade.com> >>>>> >>>>> Section: 5.2.10, appA >>>>> >>>>> Original Text >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Each bit represents an Information Element in the Data Record >>>>> with the n-th bit >>>>> representing the n-th Information Element. >>>>> >>>>> Corrected Text >>>>> -------------- >>>>> Each bit represents an Information Element in the Data Record, >>>>> with the n-th least significant bit >>>>> representing the n-th Information Element. >>>>> >>>>> Notes >>>>> ----- >>>>> A misunderstand arose as to whether bits were assigned in host order >>>>> or network order - so clarify that the bits are assigned from the >>>>> least significant to the most significant, ie right-to-left rather >>>>> than left-to-right. >>>>> >>>>> Moreover, this clarification applies to IANA's IPFIX registry. >>>>> >>>>> NB RFC 8038 re-uses this definition for mibIndexIndicator. >>>>> Consistency between the definitions is desirable. >>>>> >>>>> Instructions: >>>>> ------------- >>>>> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >>>>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >>>>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party >>>>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>> RFC5102 (draft-ietf-ipfix-info-15) >>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>> Title : Information Model for IP Flow Information Export >>>>> Publication Date : January 2008 >>>>> Author(s) : J. Quittek, S. Bryant, B. Claise, P. Aitken, >>>>> J. Meyer >>>>> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >>>>> Source : IP Flow Information Export >>>>> Area : Operations and Management >>>>> Stream : IETF >>>>> Verifying Party : IESG >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> IPFIX mailing list >>>>> IPFIX@ietf.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> IPFIX mailing list >>>> IPFIX@ietf.org >>>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url%3fu%3dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_ipfix%26d%3dDwIC-g%26c%3dIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg%26r%3dl3qN-NVkUTPhhRxKVpFXRDjrG3WNcj_6aGqXB9E7JYU%26m%3dlbHlVRM8W9dbZUz-UVd1z1hzVa3rIiNL-6zIIFo8oMo%26s%3d2CAUPZ9aGFiHyUVUtn2cZFp3fcwj4DUALHp38x4XnC8%26e%3d&c=E,1,pcYrfKgiAK5NJHIqb30BLQrXBHi8Lo8-mgP6pHj3ho1uiEqr0t_tIoUPPm2W5esu67hb-exkoIxDnLvptn6Fk1XN_eXkMZbhZslQnOteFYgZtZG7_ZC0ruA,&typo=1 >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> IPFIX mailing list >> IPFIX@ietf.org >> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix&c=E,1,usIqknq8V3E9Vc_Br3gQ45teOaNlF3LfzLHNrQfB4rcp1FD80k14Pk3JVl_c5gVkoOA2yrwp8SRtE_kUr0YLtIlWtEs33OppFfZ7Xp_6PNt-XItuFw,,&typo=1 > > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix
- Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (… Brian Trammell (IETF)
- Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (… Benoit Claise
- Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (… Andrew Feren
- [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (4984) RFC Errata System
- Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (… PJ Aitken
- [IPFIX] potential IANA action - Re: [Technical Er… RFC Editor
- Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (… PJ Aitken
- Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (… Andrew Feren
- Re: [IPFIX] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5102 (… Stewart Bryant