[IPFIX]Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7011 (8313)

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Subject: [IPFIX]Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7011 (8313)
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Hi all,

Interesting example, Andrew.

Putting aside the use of PEN as a hack, the approach in 5103 does not change the rules set in 7011 for picking ids. Of course, there is a 1:1 mapping convention set in 5103 but that is specific to that PEN.

More importantly, RFC 5103 is explicit that:

   The allocation of enterprise-specific Information Elements for IPFIX
   is left to the discretion of the organization allocating them.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Andrew Feren <andrew.feren@plixer.com>
> Envoyé : mercredi 26 février 2025 01:49
> À : Benoit Claise <benoit.claise=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Cc : Errata System RFC <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>; BOUCADAIR Mohamed
> INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; bclaise@cisco.com;
> trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch; paitken@cisco.com; ipfix@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [IPFIX]Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7011 (8313)
> 
> 
> What about RFC 5103 IEs?
> 
> -Andrew
> 
> > On Feb 25, 2025, at 07:37, Benoit Claise
> <benoit.claise=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >
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> > Dear all,
> >
> > Med is right in his thinking. We could have more precise with the
> > specifications.
> >
> > Whether this errata is Verified or Hold for Document Update, I
> > personally don't believe it's important as IMO this was never an
> issue
> > in collector implementations.
> >
> > Regards, Benoit
> >
> >
> >> On 2/25/2025 2:13 PM, RFC Errata System wrote:
> >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7011,
> >> "Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) Protocol
> for the Exchange of Flow Information".
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> You may review the report below and at:
> >>
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> >> .rfc-
> editor.org%2Ferrata%2Feid8313&data=05%7C02%7Cmohamed.boucadair%4
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> >>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> Type: Editorial
> >> Reported by: Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> >>
> >> Section: 3.2
> >>
> >> Original Text
> >> -------------
> >>    E
> >>
> >>       Enterprise bit.  This is the first bit of the Field
> Specifier.  If
> >>       this bit is zero, the Information Element identifier
> identifies an
> >>       Information Element in [IANA-IPFIX], and the four-octet
> Enterprise
> >>       Number field MUST NOT be present.  If this bit is one, the
> >>       Information Element identifier identifies an enterprise-
> specific
> >>       Information Element, and the Enterprise Number field MUST be
> >>       present.
> >>
> >>    Information Element identifier
> >>
> >>       A numeric value that represents the Information Element.
> Refer to
> >>       [IANA-IPFIX].
> >>
> >> Corrected Text
> >> --------------
> >>    E
> >>
> >>       Enterprise bit.  This is the first bit of the Field
> Specifier.  If
> >>       this bit is zero, the Information Element identifier
> identifies an
> >>       Information Element in [IANA-IPFIX], and the four-octet
> Enterprise
> >>       Number field MUST NOT be present.  If this bit is one, the
> >>       Information Element identifier identifies an enterprise-
> specific
> >>       Information Element, and the Enterprise Number field MUST be
> >>       present.
> >>
> >>    Information Element identifier
> >>
> >>       A numeric value that represents the Information Element. This
> field
> >>       takes a value in [IANA-IPFIX] when the E bit is set to zero.
> >>
> >> Notes
> >> -----
> >> Makes it explicit that the values in [IANA-IPFIX] only applies when
> the is E-bit is unset.
> >>
> >> An alternative would be to simply delete "Refer to [IANA-IPFIX]."
> as the exact behavior is already mentioned under the E bit
> description.
> >>
> >> Instructions:
> >> -------------
> >> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". (If it is spam, it
> >> will be removed shortly by the RFC Production Center.) Please use
> >> "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected.
> >> When a decision is reached, the verifying party will log in to
> change
> >> the status and edit the report, if necessary.
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> RFC7011 (draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis-10)
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> Title               : Specification of the IP Flow Information
> Export (IPFIX) Protocol for the Exchange of Flow Information
> >> Publication Date    : September 2013
> >> Author(s)           : B. Claise, Ed., B. Trammell, Ed., P. Aitken
> >> Category            : INTERNET STANDARD
> >> Source              : IP Flow Information Export
> >> Stream              : IETF
> >> Verifying Party     : IESG
> >>
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