Re: [IPP] MIB construction information

Paul Santangelo via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> Mon, 13 May 2019 11:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IPP] MIB construction information
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Thanks Bill:

I will continue to try and figure this out.

Regards,

Paul Santangelo, CCNA, CNE
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On 5/12/2019 7:21 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Hello Paul,
>
> It has been a while since  I have worked with MIBs,  and network 
> management tools have apparently advanced a great deal since then. 
> Although, as Paul indicated, Wireshark is used for monitoring network 
> traffic, it appears that more recent versions also include the ability 
> to decrypt encrypted SNMPV3 packets and  a  MIB complier that  allows 
> SNMP packets to be translated into human readable data.
>
> MIB compilers have typically been inconsistent in how forgiving (or 
> understanding) they are. However, when running a separate MIB 
> compiler, they have typically been informative in what they don’t 
> like. It is possible that the feedback in Wireshark is not as 
> informative.  I would suggest using a separate such as the one from 
> MG-SOFT (although Ira may have some good suggestions for free compilers.
>
> I do not quite understand what you did to get the error message below, 
> but as you have probably have seen, the bug report  you received 
> reports “shows that it tries to read may MIBS and does not find them 
> and then crashes”.  This is quite possible since MIBs typically import 
> other MIBs, and the whole set must be available to complete a 
> compilation. So you must ensure that all imported MIBs (as well as 
> those imported by the imported MIBs) are loaded.
> Hope this helps.
> Bill Wagner
>
> *From: *Paul Santangelo via ipp <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>
> *Sent: *Friday, May 10, 2019 3:45 PM
> *To: *Paul Tykodi <mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com>
> *Cc: *ipp@pwg.org <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [IPP] MIB construction information
>
> Hey Paul:
>
> Nice to hear from you again.  I am trying to install our Private MIB 
> into WireShark to decode the OID and Values.
>
> After I submitted the email, I found one that looked very similar to 
> others in the MIB folder under wireshark.
>
> I moved the file over and named it properly as the name in the file 
> and then added the filename to the SMI Modules.
>
> I then relaunch Wireshark and get this error:
>
> cid:part1.0E0AB9D5.E804021B@kmbs.konicaminolta.us
>
> I am going back through the MIB to see what can be causing the error, 
> but without a reference, I'm not sure that I will find it.
>
> Regards,
>
>
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> *Paul Santangelo, CCNA, CNE*
>
> Escalation System Support (ESS) Integrator
>
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>
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>
> Office: 800-825-5664 <tel:800-825-5664>
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> On 5/10/2019 3:29 PM, Paul Tykodi wrote:
>
>     Hi Paul,
>
>     IPP protocol alerts are harmonized with MIB functionality of PWG
>     authored MIB RFC’s. Current versions of Wireshark recognize and
>     can properly dissect IPP.
>
>     If you decide you have to go the MIB route, the communication to
>     printer resident MIB’s is typically SNMP based. In my career, I
>     have reviewed Wireshark traces of SNMP v1 and SNMP v2 network
>     flows involving MIB communications with a printer and Wireshark
>     captured the communication correctly.
>
>     I don’t believe I have ever reviewed an SNMP v3 trace though.
>
>     Best Regards,
>
>     /Paul
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>     On May 10, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Paul Santangelo via ipp <ipp@pwg.org
>     <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>> wrote:
>
>         Hey All:
>
>         This is probably the wrong group to be writing to, but I saw
>         the the Printer MIB Project is closed and support is through
>         this IPP workgroup.
>
>         I'm trying to develop a MIB for our printers to be used with
>         Wireshark.  I saw some information online, but there really is
>         not starting place, examples to follow.  I'm am experienced
>         enough to know how to read OID values and understand its
>         hierarchy, but constructing the file so wireshark can read it,
>         is weirding me out a bit.
>
>         Any help would be appreciated.
>
>         Thank you
>
>         -- 
>
>         Regards,
>
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>         *Paul Santangelo, CCNA, CNE*
>
>         Escalation System Support (ESS) Integrator
>
>         *Konica Minolta Business Solutions U.S.A., Inc.*
>
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