Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3?
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To: Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3?
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From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp" <ipp@pwg.org>
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+1. Will go with that. Smith /** Smith Kennedy HP Inc. */ > On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote: > > Ira, > > NODRIVER works for me as well. > > ____________________ > Michael Sweet > >> On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> See my reply to Uli just now. >> >> For simplicity, how about "nodriver"? >> >> I never visually parse things like "DRVR" and I doubt others do. >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic <http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic> >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc <http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc> >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com> >> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org <mailto:msweet@msweet.org>> wrote: >> Ira, >> >> It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily as "NODRVR", and I think the "ipp" that comes before it should hint at the focus on printing, but I don't have a strong objection to it. >> >> >> > On Oct 18, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Mike, >> > >> > I hadn't thought about "DLP". >> > >> > How about "nodprt" (No Driver Printing) to preserve the printing aspect. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > - Ira >> > >> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic <http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic> >> > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc <http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc> >> > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com> >> > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:22 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org <mailto:msweet@msweet.org>> wrote: >> > Ira, >> > >> > How about "DRVRLS" or "NODRVR" as the acronym? DLPX makes me think of a super version of DLP projectors... :) >> > >> > >> > > On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > To avoid the growing collection of three-letter acronyms ending in 'x', >> > > I suggest 'ippdlpx' (DLPX) to emphasize that it's about *not* needing >> > > special drivers. >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > - Ira >> > > >> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> > > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> > > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >> > > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> > > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> > > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> > > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> > > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic <http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic> >> > > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc <http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc> >> > > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com> >> > > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com <mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com>> wrote: >> > > I'm fine with renaming it to be "Driverless Printing Extensions" - will change it in the next draft once the current one has been reviewed. >> > > >> > > Smith >> > > >> > > /** >> > > Smith Kennedy >> > > HP Inc. >> > > */ >> > > >> > >> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <ipp@pwg.org <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hi Mike, >> > >> >> > >> Thank you! >> > >> >> > >> +1 >> > >> >> > >> I like "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions" best of your suggestions >> > >> (because "Mobile" is too narrow and "Universal" is too ambiguous). >> > >> >> > >> JPS3 is a meaningless name. >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> - Ira >> > >> >> > >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >> > >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> > >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> > >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> > >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> > >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic <http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic> >> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc <http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc> >> > >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com> >> > >> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:53 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>> wrote: >> > >> All, >> > >> >> > >> As I start to prepare the slides for the November F2F, it occurs to me that we have made some useful name changes to historical specifications: >> > >> >> > >> - PWG 5100.3 ("IPP Production Printing Attributes - Set 1") renamed to "IPP Production Printing Extensions" >> > >> - PWG 5100.11 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2") renamed to "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions" >> > >> >> > >> That just leaves PWG 5100.13 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 3"), which has a strong focus on "driverless" printing. I suggest we rename JPS3 to something that indicates its focus, for example: >> > >> >> > >> "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions" >> > >> >> > >> "IPP Driver Equivalence Extensions" >> > >> >> > >> "IPP Mobile Printing Extensions" >> > >> >> > >> "IPP Universal Printing Extensions" >> > >> >> > >> Thoughts? >> > >> >> > >> ________________________ >> > >> Michael Sweet >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> ipp mailing list >> > >> ipp@pwg.org <mailto:ipp@pwg.org> >> > >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp <https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> ipp mailing list >> > >> ipp@pwg.org <mailto:ipp@pwg.org> >> > >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp <https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp> >> > > >> > >> > ________________________ >> > Michael Sweet >> > >> > >> > >> >> ________________________ >> Michael Sweet >> >> >>
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- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Ira McDonald via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Michael Sweet via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Ira McDonald via ipp
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- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Ira McDonald via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Michael Sweet via ipp
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- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Michael Sweet via ipp
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