Re: [IPP] Registration of the new media sizes

Charles Armstrong via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> Mon, 04 November 2024 21:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IPP] Registration of the new media sizes
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Hi Mike and all,
Please refer to the attached document for additional details regarding the request. 
If you have any questions, please let me know.
Thanks
Charles


-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Armstrong 
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 3:52 PM
To: Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>
Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: RE: Registration of the new media sizes

Hi Mike,
Thank you for the prompt response and consideration.
Regards,
Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 3:37 PM
To: Charles Armstrong <carmstrong@cusa.canon.com>
Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: Registration of the new media sizes

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Charles,

> On Oct 22, 2024, at 5:20 PM, Charles Armstrong <carmstrong@cusa.canon.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Mike & all,
> Canon would like to register the following new media sizes in the IANA IPP registry.
> jpn_kaku6_162x229mm jpn_kaku20_229x324mm jpn_you2_114x162mm 
> jpn_youchou3_120x235mm We note that there are existing envelope media 
> sizes (iso_c5_162x229mm, iso_c4_229x324mm, iso_c6_114x162mm, jpn_chou3_120x235mm) defined in the IANA registry with the same width and length. However, these media sizes differ in terms of envelope flap position, feed direction, or orientation. We would like to inquire about any concerns or guidelines regarding the registration of identical media sizes with he IANA IPP registry. Your feedback on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Currently MSN 2.1 does not allow for multiple named sizes to be registered with the same dimensions. We could conceptually relax this for common envelope sizes that are also sheet sizes...

I will add this as a topic of discussion at Thursday's IPP workgroup conference call.

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