Re: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP concall
Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> Fri, 22 October 2021 01:45 UTC
Return-Path: <ipp-bounces@pwg.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B203A0B4B
for <ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 18:45:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -3.099
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5
tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,
DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1,
SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001]
autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key)
header.d=pwg.org header.b=u9g+ezsu; dkim=pass (1024-bit key)
header.d=pwg.org header.b=vIeXvvWo; dkim=fail (1024-bit key)
reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=msweet.org
header.b=qVPvjq3O
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id 5bddWBUWcurC for <ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com>;
Thu, 21 Oct 2021 18:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199])
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CA33A0942
for <ipp-archive2@ietf.org>; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 18:44:54 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002)
id E13B0EB56; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 01:44:52 +0000 (UTC)
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mail.pwg.org E13B0EB56
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pwg.org; s=default;
t=1634867092; bh=QD9jDn9RB+ljc1/tLPRjxZen9PRPxjh7y0lGOwRE+ks=;
h=In-Reply-To:Date:References:To:Cc:Subject:List-Id:
List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:
From:Reply-To:From;
b=u9g+ezsuRzVVod1k0YT3aBWUdRxdAivC0CWjzYffesLSlt1LZP8/YzFA0EfzpuHRI
XlNeS2Mn46Xztp+4/2eNrEHsdeK+uJp0lHhbUi2+iUDWsHZxXg7DtMJElYpwjxz/ES
SiEh8K9JUYn3l2ESa5yqPN63/dUn4o6WWZhNKiDo=
Received: from mail.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1])
by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5390FE8DC;
Fri, 22 Oct 2021 01:44:50 +0000 (UTC)
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mail.pwg.org 5390FE8DC
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pwg.org; s=default;
t=1634867090; bh=QD9jDn9RB+ljc1/tLPRjxZen9PRPxjh7y0lGOwRE+ks=;
h=In-Reply-To:Date:References:To:Cc:Subject:List-Id:
List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:
From:Reply-To:From;
b=vIeXvvWoU5nckO0j168YqGpoYGmqjT+doZOwsQ6F/G3vct/kYmVOWo8axKuN82PwM
f3YloqFPOZRRobA4mqbyqFrV0IXTDI12FwqFS6T3aemvUbF5aHLqP/pp0ywZaFeNqS
kWqWZgH3X7aYeBaxlHVPlFhKLwpramjoNkmeEHOI=
X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org
Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org
Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002)
id 45050E9E2; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 01:44:49 +0000 (UTC)
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mail.pwg.org 45050E9E2
Authentication-Results: mail.pwg.org;
dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=msweet.org header.i=@msweet.org
header.b="qVPvjq3O"
Received: from mail.msweet.org (mail.msweet.org [173.255.209.91])
by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC51477
for <ipp@pwg.org>; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 01:44:48 +0000 (UTC)
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mail.pwg.org CCC51477
Received: from smtpclient.apple (cbl-66-186-76-47.vianet.ca [66.186.76.47])
by mail.msweet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0BAA981FFC;
Fri, 22 Oct 2021 01:44:47 +0000 (UTC)
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mail.msweet.org 0BAA981FFC
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=msweet.org;
s=default; t=1634867088;
bh=5plOxnq9wQAjGTtCj10oSn/bhB3Enjhxa9fyVBWqQ04=;
h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From;
b=qVPvjq3O7PDAiXgBsc3bl3BIMNHZ2HammPhipq2PTYj7PYItfoQcFZHxep8XhkS9N
CXk6oFEqXxS65IzaOZ6wkQyJZFBRaFuAlHW20xv2ubyO/JP2CkLg7pAMjof0X8I/N7
vlpXPl7NC9OvD5gTan79aqllU8y0VQnxO1YwgVcw=
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\))
In-Reply-To: <838162E6-A347-4C30-AC53-21CD04FA0F0F@hp.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:44:46 -0400
Message-Id: <E031DA6F-22D4-43B2-B942-30362C1B24DD@msweet.org>
References: <C1F4AD39-6F28-447C-A531-8822929B7654@msweet.org>
<082C4E5B-1FD9-44E9-8523-86E64C6CA826@hp.com>
<838162E6-A347-4C30-AC53-21CD04FA0F0F@hp.com>
To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13)
Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP concall
X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum
<ipp.pwg.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.pwg.org/mailman/options/ipp>,
<mailto:ipp-request@pwg.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.pwg.org/pipermail/ipp/>
List-Post: <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipp-request@pwg.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp>,
<mailto:ipp-request@pwg.org?subject=subscribe>
From: Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org>
Reply-To: Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3045118319988440825=="
Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org
Sender: "ipp" <ipp-bounces@pwg.org>
Smith, Since we have no method of changing a Job's owner in IPP (or in the Semantic Model, for that matter :) I think we want to avoid talking about the administrator changing anything. STD92 ties the job owner to the user that sent the Print-Job/Print-URI/Create-Job request, so that's what we should reflect. > On Oct 21, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > > I found this definition in 5108.01: > > Job Owner: Normally the User who submits a Job is the Job Owner, although under certain circumstances an administrator can reassign ownership. The Job owner has certain administrative privileges with respect to his Jobs. > > >> On Oct 21, 2021, at 1:57 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote: >> >> Signed PGP part >> Hi Mike, >> >> The minutes say this: >> >> ⁃ Section 2.2: >> ⁃ Import Job Owner from STD92 >> >> But I'm not finding a clear definition of "Job Owner" in RFC 8011 (the document actually uses "Job owner" with a lower case "o"). Do you have a definition you would like me to use in EPX? System Service has this definition: >> >> Owner: The End User or Administrator who owns and manages (and typically created) a Job, Printer, Resource, Subscription, or System [PWG5108.06]. >> >> I could use that? Or make a Job Owner that would be something like this: >> >> Job Owner: The End User who owns and manages (and typically created) a Job [PWG5108.06]. >> >> Smith >> >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> HP Inc. >> */ >> >>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> I have posted the minutes from today's IPP workgroup conference call to: >>> >>> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20210923.pdf >>> >>> Our next conference call is on October 7, 2021 at 3pm ET. >>> >>> ________________________ >>> Michael Sweet >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ipp mailing list >>> ipp@pwg.org >>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> >> >> > ________________________ Michael Sweet
_______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
- [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP concall Michael Sweet via ipp
- Re: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP concall Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp
- Re: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP concall Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp
- Re: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP concall Michael Sweet via ipp
- Re: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP concall Michael Sweet via ipp
- Re: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP concall Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp