Re: [IPP] [EXTERNAL] Re: IppFaxOut specification missing mDNS resource path information

Michael Ziller via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> Tue, 13 August 2024 21:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IPP] [EXTERNAL] Re: IppFaxOut specification missing mDNS resource path information
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Thanks for the clarification. I missed the 4.1.5 MUST and future mDNS specification would be great here.

Regards,
Michael

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From: Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 2:48 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [IPP] IppFaxOut specification missing mDNS resource path information

Michael,

> On Aug 13, 2024, at 2:19 PM, Michael Ziller via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>
> The IppFaxOut spec Microsoft Word - cs-ippfaxout10-20140618-5100.15.docx (pwg.org) makes no mention of mDNS discovery for fax out support. Is the intent that all printers will use a resource path of “/ipp/faxout” or is the spec missing mention of the “rfo=/ipp/faxout” mDNS TXT record for determining the IppFaxOut resource path to use?

The FaxOut spec was written before the TXT record variable was defined/used, and then for AirPrint. I've filed an errata issue against 5100.15 to add a DNS-SD section:

    https://www.pwg.org/dynamo/issues.php?U131

FWIW, except for print servers (where there would be multiple "queues") the resource path is expected to be "/ipp/faxout".  From 5100.15:

4.1.5 Printer URIs

Each instance of an IPP FaxOut service is identified by a URI. The path component of an IPP FaxOut URI MUST be “/ipp/faxout” for the only (or default) instance of the service on an Imaging Device and “/ipp/faxout/instance-name” for each additional, non-default instance on the Imaging Device.

Thanks for noticing this and speaking up!

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Michael Sweet

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