Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
"MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com> Fri, 29 June 2018 18:26 UTC
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From: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com>
To: "t.petch" <ietfa@btconnect.com>, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
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Thread-Topic: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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-encrypt- is still misspelled, thanks for catching that. Al > -----Original Message----- > From: t.petch [mailto:ietfa@btconnect.com] > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 6:41 AM > To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> > Cc: ippm-chairs@ietf.org; ippm@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ippm-twamp- > yang@ietf.org; IESG <iesg@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang- > 11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) > > Spencer > > Perhaps one for a Note to the RFC Editor > > -12 still has > bit unauth-test-encrpyt-control { > which AM suggested should be > bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { > > Tom Petch > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spencer Dawkins at IETF" <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> > To: "Ignas Bagdonas" <ibagdona@gmail.com> > Cc: <ippm-chairs@ietf.org>; <ippm@ietf.org>; > <draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org>; "IESG" <iesg@ietf.org> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 3:24 PM > > > Dear Authors, > > > > Thank you for a quick and productive Discussion on Ignas's ballot > position > > on this draft. > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 11:32 AM Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > >> 3. Key storage. The document defines its own way of storing > keys - > > > while there > > > >> are multiple existing ways to store keys (routing key-chain > model, > > > I2NSF, IPsec > > > >> model, netconf-keystore). Why yet another key storage mechanism > is > > > required? > > > >> What could be reused from other existing mechanisms? > > > > Precisely. When we started work on this draft, there were plethora > of > > > ideas on how to store keys. We borrowed the idea from what is now > the > > > ietf-key-chain module to define the key chain. And we followed the > KISS > > > principle by incorporating what was absolutely needed by TWAMP. > > > > > > That is understood and probably can be justified for this particular > > > model. But the cost of this approach is yet another way of storing > key > > > information. > > > > I saw that Ignas cleared his Discuss here, but did have a question > about > > where the resolution ended up. > > > > I understood Ignas to be asking two things - where did this way of > storing > > keys come from, and why was an existing way of storing the keys not > chosen? > > > > I understand that Ignas cleared his Discuss, based on the explanation > in > > this e-mail thread. > > > > I wonder if it is worth a sentence or two, to explain that in the > draft > > ("we started with this key storage model, and left out parts we didn't > > need", or something like that). > > > > I'm reviewing changes today, so expect to be sending the e-mail > approving > > publication pretty soon. > > > > Spencer > > > > > > Having the answers for the three points that you have raised, > would you > > > still have a DISCUSS. If so, which issue, do you want to see > addressed? > > > > > > I am happy with the answers, will clear the DISCUSS. The one that I > am > > > somewhat less happy with is the key storage one - from the > perspective > > > of both model developer and application developer, additional model > that > > > does mostly the same thing is getting towards both to the > duplication of > > > the work and encouraging the divergence of the ways how similar > things > > > are done. The root of the problem is far deeper than this draft - > there > > > does not appear to be an overall coordination of how the different > > > models bind together into something that allows to use different > models > > > in the context of the whole system. > >
- Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-… Ignas Bagdonas
- [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm… Ignas Bagdonas
- Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-… t.petch
- Re: [ippm] Ignas Bagdonas' Discuss on draft-ietf-… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)