[ippm] RFC8321bis and 8889bis

[Martin Duke <[e-mail]>]

Hello IPPM,

You may recall that there was a need to progress RFC8321 and RFC8889 from
Experimental to Proposed Standard. There was a feeling that the update
would be trivial and we could therefore do it as an AD sponsored document.

I've done 3 rounds of AD review and I've seen the need to substantially
adjust the scope of these documents and tweak the design in places. The
changes are not revolutionary, but I'm a non-practitioner and have driven
some design changes with minimal review. At this point I think it's
important to get good IPPM review; if we're going to do that anyway, we
might as well do the (expedited) working group process so that there's no
confusion as to why IPPM didn't formally review an update to its own
documents.

So, as first step, I invite the working group to adopt these two drafts:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fioccola-rfc8321bis/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fioccola-rfc8889bis/
Any objections to adoption, as always, should be to the value of doing the
work at all, and the general direction of the drafts. I hope to follow up
the adoption call with an immediate WGLC to shake out any detailed
objections, though we will take as long as we need to address concerns that
people have.

I invite you to consult the changelogs on both of these documents, which
are not long, to get a sense of what we've done.

For those of you who like diffs, there was a big reorganization between
draft-02 and -03 that is hard to follow in a diff. So here is a set of
diffs that exclude the -02 to -03 transition:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=rfc8321.txt&url2=draft-fioccola-rfc8321bis-02.txt
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-fioccola-rfc8321bis-03.txt&url2=draft-fioccola-rfc8321bis-04.txt

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=rfc8889.txt&url2=draft-fioccola-rfc8889bis-02.txt
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-fioccola-rfc8889bis-03.txt&url2=draft-fioccola-rfc8889bis-04.txt

I believe it's up to the chairs to start the adoption call. If people are
good about reading the document during WGLC, I would like to think we could
be done before IETF 114.

Your friendly Area Director,
Martin